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re: The Bruce Jenner debacle is complete. Seen wearing a dress around Malibu
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:21 pm to Rouge
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:21 pm to Rouge
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people that care about it are losers
Okay, what does that say about him then? He's the one doing the big interview and he stars on a reality show...
If it wasn't for people who cared about it, he would've stayed forgotten about.
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Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:22 pm to i am dan
quote:He is doing the big interview so people will stop fricking creeping on him. He refused all interviews on the subject to start. Now, it is getting out of control and people are hounding him and even his mother. I mean shite, the interview will hopefully make people realize just leave him alone and he will disappear
He's the one doing the big interview
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:25 pm to lsupride87
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And, when he is being USED as a way to bring the revolution forward, his life has everything to do with my life, what society is all about, and what my children will be taught by this society about what gender actually is.
Wake up.
So do you think gender is more about what is taught and not just natural? You worried that boys one day will be taught to be women and they will start doing that? Seems a little paranoid to me
And there is the other tired trick.
First, it is "live and let live" and "why do you care what people do?"
Then, it is "you sound paranoid because THAT could never happen."
Whatever. I have seen all of this before. In the 90's we were told that truth was all relative and what mattered was tolerance. So, everyone eased up on the moral judgments so we could "live and let live."
Now, we find that if someone even has an opinion against Gay Marriage for religious reasons, then they are to be treated as a pariah in this new society and attacked constantly, even if they do not actively discriminate.
All of these objections have been used over and over again to neutralize argument until the other side wins, and then there is no more tolerance for dissenting opinions. The call for tolerance only goes one way.
As for worrying about what my kids are taught, I don't want them to be taught a lie in Kindergarten that Male and Female is arbitrary and doesn't matter. I actually believe that Male and Female is a fixed thing. I don't think that them being taught that will cause them to be Transgendered, but why do I want lies shoved down their throat because of some twisted desire for social experimentation?
We have always had transgendered people around - people who were confused about who they really were. It is a real thing but it is also a real sign of a mental/emotional disorder. Why not keep calling it that? Why succumb to this?
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:26 pm to lsupride87
How long before Jenner offs himself? The statistics of suicides for these types of people is alarmingly high (I'd assume because once the phase wears off and the person realizes what they've done they feels there's no alternative)
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:28 pm to lsupride87
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So, we now normalize people changing genders and mutalting themselves all so they can feel whole and it still won't fill the void. Not that it possilby can. We have lost our minds.
Who is "normalizing" it? We are simply saying "who gives a freaking shite" It has ZERO effect on anyone. Bruce has not been out in the media demanding respect or your approval. He is being hounded by media and people daily. If people would not give a shite then it would go away and the media wouldnt report it
The fact that you are ill informed as to what is going on in our society in this area is not my fault. You should probably open your eyes. This is the new frontier and Jenner is being used as a spokesman for it. Just because you didn't know that doesn't make it not so.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:30 pm to AlaTiger
quote:I still dont care. I just dont. If everyone didnt care about it, would it be in the news at all? Answer that
The fact that you are ill informed as to what is going on in our society in this area is not my fault. You should probably open your eyes. This is the new frontier and Jenner is being used as a spokesman for it. Just because you didn't know that doesn't make it not so.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:32 pm to Rouge
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good for him
people that care about it are losers
This. As long as he is happy.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:32 pm to AlaTiger
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AlaTiger
You are not allowed to have an opinion on what is right or wrong because it doesn't effect you, don't you know that by now!
I seriously wonder if some of these people take the same approach with raising their children. I'm really glad my parents took the approach of teaching me values and what is right and wrong. It worked out for me so I will do the same thing with my children. To each their own I guess.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:33 pm to Tigerstudent08
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I'm really glad my parents took the approach of teaching me values and what is right and wrong. It worked out for me so I will do the same thing with my children. To each their own I guess.
You sir are an idiot Because I dont give a shite about what some random person does with their personal life, means I wont discipline my children. Sweet argument broPosted on 4/22/15 at 1:34 pm to lsupride87
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I still dont care. I just dont. If everyone didnt care about it, would it be in the news at all? Answer that
Society is about to be fully reconstructed to make room for the Transgendered to be completely normalized in every respect. The fact that you are completely ambivalent to what happens in the world around you is a YOU problem and not my problem. Do what you want. Care about what you want. The social engineers depend on people like you to reconstruct society as they see fit.
This is a mental disorder that depicts complete confusion on his part. We should have compassion on him and he should be allowed to do what he wants. I am not saying we should stop him or criminalize it or persecute him or anything. But, we should not accept this as just another normal identity. It is not.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:34 pm to AlaTiger
Look, I understand your point. As a society, you respect the fact that people have a choice. That doesn't mean you have to approve of it. You can't dictate what people should feel in their hearts and minds. That's totalitarianism and is not what a free society is about.
The LGBT community has every right to exercise their free will. That doesn't mean religious people should have to accept their behavior, and they shouldn't have to be apologetic for holding those beliefs.
Jenner is making a choice to identify himself as a woman. It's not illegal. Like I said before, I don't know how to feel about it because I am not educated on the relationship between the biological brain and individual psyche, especially when it comes to things like gender identity or sexual orientation.
Now, whether it's immoral is a different discussion. Unfortunately, in my opinion, that's a discussion we probably can't have without knowing more about the brain and mind when it comes to gender identity and sexual orientation. And, I doubt any of us in this thread are qualified to expound on the subject.
The LGBT community has every right to exercise their free will. That doesn't mean religious people should have to accept their behavior, and they shouldn't have to be apologetic for holding those beliefs.
Jenner is making a choice to identify himself as a woman. It's not illegal. Like I said before, I don't know how to feel about it because I am not educated on the relationship between the biological brain and individual psyche, especially when it comes to things like gender identity or sexual orientation.
Now, whether it's immoral is a different discussion. Unfortunately, in my opinion, that's a discussion we probably can't have without knowing more about the brain and mind when it comes to gender identity and sexual orientation. And, I doubt any of us in this thread are qualified to expound on the subject.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:37 pm to SabiDojo
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I doubt any of us in this thread are qualified to expound on the subject.
Pfft. AlaTiger is obviously an expert.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:37 pm to AlaTiger
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Society is about to be fully reconstructed to make room for the Transgendered to be completely normalized in every respect.
so?
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:38 pm to AlaTiger
quote:If the govt comes and tells me I have to be transgendered, then I will care. But if a person chooses to do so, why in the hell should I care?
The fact that you are completely ambivalent to what happens in the world around you is a YOU problem and not my problem
quote:So you think the media is using Bruce Jenner to try and make society transgendered? You dont think they report it because it is a hot topic that pisses people off and they get money out of it?
The social engineers depend on people like you to reconstruct society as they see fit.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:39 pm to Salmon
quote:LOL at you. You are a bad parent that doesnt even discipline your kids because you dont care about transgenders.
so?
[Sarcasm based on the other guy]
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:40 pm to lsupride87
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Because I dont give a shite about what some random person does with their personal life
oh okay so you don't give a shite about anyone besides you and your family. Sweet approach! I've always been taught that whole love thy neighbor thing but I like your way better.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:40 pm to AlaTiger
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He wasn't born this way. He didn't think he was really a woman in a man's body.
How do you know this? I'm scared to hear the answer, honestly. Xenu?
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:40 pm to Po Campo
burn it with fire!
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:41 pm to Tigerstudent08
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oh okay so you don't give a shite about anyone besides you and your family. Sweet approach! I've always been taught that whole love thy neighbor thing but I like your way better.
You love your neighbor so much you are willing to take their free will away from them? Lots of happy moments in world history when that happens.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:41 pm to Tigerstudent08
quote:You are so dense. I dont care what things they chose to do with their personal life. And why should I?
oh okay so you don't give a shite about anyone besides you and your family
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Sweet approach! I've always been taught that whole love thy neighbor thing but I like your way better.
What does this have to do with anything
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