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Help determining how much mortgage I can afford

Posted on 4/16/15 at 10:04 am
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10521 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 10:04 am
Sorry for another topic. Searching for my first house has been stressful and I'm really unsure what I'm doing.

I have a very wide price range of houses I'm looking at. Anywhere from 60,000 which will need some fixing up to 150,000.

I want to make a smart decision, and not sign a mortgage which will cripple me. I also don't want to get in over my head with a house that will need an excessive amount of work. So I'm trying to split the line a bit in the middle.

My salary is $46,000 but I'll get a 5k raise to $51,000 before the year is over. I have no debt. Monthly expenses are about $600-700.

My gf would also be moving in with me and helping pay bills,and I would charge her rent. I don't want to rely on rent obviously, because anything could happen even though we're very serious, but at the same time I also realize in the unlikely event we do suddenly split, it wouldn't be hard to rent out to another friend.

I've looked at mortgage affordability calculators but to be honest, the ones I've found have been a little too complex for me.

Any help appreciated
Posted by yellowhammer2098
New Orleans, LA
Member since Mar 2013
3850 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 10:06 am to
Not sure how much this helps but...

I bought a condo for $130k. Currently make about $10k less than you (before your raise). Payment is $500 a month (put about $28k down) and it nowhere near cripples me (also pay $324 HOA). I'd say depending on your down payment you can probably afford any of the houses you're looking at.
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6436 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 10:16 am to
Figure out what your bills are going to be, make a budget, then enter in various amounts for the mortgage. Play with the numbers until you feel comfortable. When you get a monthly mortgage amount you feel comfortable, take that amount and see what you could borrow at that amount using various interest rates and loan lengths.

Just because an online calculator says you can afford a mortgage doesn't mean you can actually afford that much.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11882 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 10:46 am to
You need to look at both what you can afford to pay now, and what you could afford to pay when life changes down the road

I would figure you are paying all the bills, because there is no guarantee down the GF will still be around.

Same thing if married and possibility of wife staying home with future kids. Only buy want you can comfortably afford on just your salary

Posted by Boondock Saint
The Boondocks
Member since Oct 2005
4551 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:58 am to
Also don't just consider the principle and interest. Find out what your property taxes will be. Also your homeowner's insurance will be a part of the mortgage also. Check to see if you need flood insurance. That bit me in the arse.

I was a first time home buyer and didn't really calculate these expenses. It added about $300 a month to the principal and interest. Luckily I could afford it, but it takes many by surprise......
Posted by BoogaBear
Member since Jul 2013
5667 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 1:48 pm to
I was in a similar situation when we bought our first home.

At that salary range I was bringing home about 2400ish a month after taxes.

I had more debts than you, and was supporting my wife while she finished school. It was very tight all the time, and I didn't ever put any money back.

You also have to consider other bills, on a $700 mortgage payment expect all housing bills to tally around $1100 with power, internet, cable, tv, water, etc.
This post was edited on 4/16/15 at 1:49 pm
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14967 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 1:54 pm to
This calculator is very, very simple to use. It's almost abacus like. It's my secret weapon I used for year's with customers.

Dr. Karl's Mortgage Calculator

My wife and I work and combined we're around $80K/year. I'm the bigger earner and the "typical" theory I used to give to clients was to triple your annual household income and that was the MAX you could afford.

For me that would be $240K and I can assure you I'm not touching that much housenote with a 50 foot pole. My wife and I are childless with a Chihuahua so we bought a small garden home.

We paid $144K for it and with a 3.625% 30 year fixed rate USDA Rural Development Loan, PITI is $804/month. Because we are over 80% LTV, this includes a small amount of Mortgage Insurance (or MI). It will reduce by $2/year until we reach 80% through appreciation or paying it down.

The rates are right around the same amount we paid, and she and I are both on the mortgage, the note, the title, etc.

You are a little different because your girlfriend isn't going to be on the note, the mortgage, title, etc. So your income will be smaller, but you are closer to my home's purchase price.

So keep my numbers in mind as you'll be somewhere in that neighborhood from a monthly note standpoint.

Best of luck.
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22763 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 2:00 pm to
Call a lender and let them tell you what you get approved for. Divide that by two and that should be close your budget.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
13961 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

$51,000 before the year is over

This is about what I made when I purchased my first home 2 years ago for $185,000. I put down 5% on a conventional loan at 3.75% interest. My monthly payments (mortgage, interest, taxes, PMI) are right at $1100/month.

Of course, this board will probably tell you that I spent too much for what I make and that I should have waited until I had 20% to put down. But I didn't want to live in a total dump, and I didn't want to wait until I was in my 30s to buy a house (Seriously, that 20% down rule of thumb is ridiculous). So I did what I did.

I make more now than I did a couple years ago, but even at a $51k salary, paying my note was not a problem. It just takes a little budgeting and self discipline. However, I had no other debt to worry about either. Also, I spent a lot of money furnishing the place. And I made sure I had the money to do that before I bought the house.
Posted by juice4lsu
Member since Dec 2007
3697 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 4:26 pm to
If you can do it, I would highly recommend looking at Duplexes or Fourplexes. You only have one opportunity to get low interest and low down payment on an investment property and that is your first house. If you buy a home not as a primary residence then you must put more down and are subject to higher interest rates. Even if you only live there a few years, you will never regret receiving mailbox money if the numbers are right from an investment perspective. I wish I would have done this when I bought my first.
This post was edited on 4/16/15 at 4:27 pm
Posted by Jabstep
Member since Jul 2014
2134 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 4:38 pm to
General rule is that the total price of the home Should not exceed households three years gross pay. I preferably attempt to keep all of my expenses limited to two weeks take home pay.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71694 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 10:37 am to
quote:

I don't want to rely on rent obviously, because anything could happen even though we're very serious, but at the same time I also realize in the unlikely event we do suddenly split, it wouldn't be hard to rent out to another friend.




Most people don't think like that.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
16132 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 7:20 pm to
No need to be in a hurry to buy.

Renting is not that bad and it gives you flexibility to move if a better professional opportunity arises.

Realtors and mortgage originators will tell you to buy what they can approve. I would buy a house that meets your needs.
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