re: If you blame this on coaching, you're a moron

When it's 1 or 2 games, sure. When it's a trend, the buck has to stop somewhere. I like Johnny, but I don't think he's a good motivator and he doesn't know when to call timeout. These are flaws that keep showing up. I'll give him next year, but he's got to prove me wrong.

I get your point, and those made by others along those same lines. But I always come back to this thought...is it the CEO's fault if his managers suck or, better said, underperform?

Not necessarily, but as the old adage goes, the buck stops with him. Who is your 2nd or 3rd in command? Are they worth a darn?

What about the managers, or in this case, the players? Did you hire well? Did you put those managers in a position to succeed?

But these are kids, you may say, and thus this analogy is inappropriate.

Perhaps, but the point is the best leaders hire the best and bring out the best in those under them.

Personally, I don't see that with Jones.

And trust me, I wish I did. At some point though, you cannot deny what you see with your own eyes, no matter how much you wish it weren't true.

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They never make adjustments and missed give mes are a result of fatigue. Guess what that falls on.

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Clearly adjustments were made as game was static throughout and LSU stopped NC State runs and shut down their guards after a good start.

Player fatigue is certainly a factor, but he can't play his bench in late games. You can certainly blame him for that, but lack of bench is a big issue and it isn't entirely on him.

Edit: I also want to add about adjustments over the season. At the start LSU's weakness and criticism was that they struggled to defend and had too many turnovers. They defended very well today and only had 8 turnovers despite playing at a very fast pace. While I'm upset that we lost too, repeating what you read on TD doesn't make it true.

Please show me where we made any offensive adjustment in the last 10:30? Our defense was solid for the most part and was certainly not the reason we lost the game. JJ is not a great game manager or x and o type of coach. I don't see his teams showing a lot of motivation either. So I guess his ability to recruit is about all he has going for him. I'm certain he is a great person but that won't win ya any games.

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If you don't make free throws, you can't put teams away. The coach can't make free throws. This one is totally on the players. Sorry JJ haters.

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If this was the first time that cost this team a game you would kind of have a point, but you don't.

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Lack of a bench is who s fault then?

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I said it wasn't entirely his fault. He has had two recruiting classes and there was only one legitimate post player on the team in JOB when he arrived. Odo was likely a mis-evaluation, but they were desperate and in need of post player. They took a shot at Odo and missed.

The bench is entirely made up of freshman and sophomores whom may or may not be contributors. Honestly, only one of them has been disappointing, but there are good reasons why Robinson hasn't been able to play. While Trent left a few good pieces, there some huge holes in the roster and Jones hasn't been able to fill quite yet.

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And trust me, I wish I did. At some point though, you cannot deny what you see with your own eyes, no matter how much you wish it weren't true.

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It's called having your head buried in the sand, which is the origin of our "Sand Header" moniker.

Sand Header. Sunshine Pumper. Cheerleader. Program Worshipper. Doesn't matter. They're all cut from the same block of granite! Blind loyalty to the P&G gods and acceptance of coaching negligence.

Looking at the bigger picture outside of this game and season. Blame Alleva. He could've hired Tony Bennett back when he was still at Washington State, when Trent Johnson was hired and we wouldn't be having this conversation right now. The program would be stable and much further along in development.

BTW, anybody who thinks it's going to get any better next year are fooling themselves. (Especially with M, M and M gone) This team will have the same problems. Just trading Martin and Mickey for Simmons and Blakeney. Same coach. Same strategic deficiencies. Same results. Same disappointment of the program not reaching full potential with the existing talent......

You can really tell the posters who know nothing about basketball ... If you think practicing FTs would of have helped Mickey in the clutch tonight you're hopeless