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re: USW strike...** POSSIBLE END IN SIGHT **
Posted on 2/7/15 at 12:30 pm to TigerHam85
Posted on 2/7/15 at 12:30 pm to TigerHam85
When are people going to realize the union always in the beginning ask for the high amounts ( pay, sign on bonus, health Benifits ) ? But when everything is said and done the amounts asked for in the beginning are not always received. The same % was asked for in 2009 & 2012 and was only given 3% for year and 2.5% each year after. Unless you where in the industry you would not have known this, only now is the general public speaking out because the Union Walked!
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Posted on 2/7/15 at 12:33 pm to Txgrl43
There has never been a day in my life that I supported a union and there never will be a day that I do.
Raises should forever be based on performance.
Raises should forever be based on performance.
Posted on 2/7/15 at 12:34 pm to Crow Pie
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So it takes 3 years to learn how to read a gauge and flip a valve?
The idiocy in this thread is astounding.
Posted on 2/7/15 at 12:51 pm to TigerHam85
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Raises should forever be based on performance.
How would you recommend this industry base their performance?
No recordable injuries, check.
No fatalities, check.
No recordable emmisions, check.
Didn't kill half of Baton Rouge, check.
Pay me my money.
Posted on 2/7/15 at 12:53 pm to TigerHam85
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That is accurate. Along with $7,500 sign on bonus.
In fairness the company offered a 7500 bonus to take a paycut last round. So they are willing to pay a bonus.
Posted on 2/7/15 at 1:03 pm to fightin tigers
Most don't know about the "bonus" the companies were offering. Along with that came a cut in pay. Give you a lump sum now, but cut your pay. By the way, you will never get that cut in pay back.
Also, a raise based on performance is a two edged sword. That all depends on who is authorizing the raise. Many of the people who contend for this don't have experience with this. Like those who won't tip a server for good service, don't understand because they never lived off of tips, yet they expect great service anyway.
Many here don't support unions because they don't know any better. I know this, we don't have what we have in these industries if it weren't for the unions. Especially the non union sites benefiting from the union contracts.
Also, a raise based on performance is a two edged sword. That all depends on who is authorizing the raise. Many of the people who contend for this don't have experience with this. Like those who won't tip a server for good service, don't understand because they never lived off of tips, yet they expect great service anyway.
Many here don't support unions because they don't know any better. I know this, we don't have what we have in these industries if it weren't for the unions. Especially the non union sites benefiting from the union contracts.
Posted on 2/7/15 at 1:10 pm to justusstone
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Also, a raise based on performance is a two edged sword.
I can make my performance look amazing at the expense of others. Go pinch back on a valve or screw with the process. It will take you more than 48hrs to find the source, by that time I will swoop back in and save the day.
Let's hope I get back in time before that vessel over pressures, but damn, can you imagine my bonus.
Posted on 2/7/15 at 1:14 pm to justusstone
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By the way, you will never get that cut in pay back.
Nor will you get back the pay you missed while on strike
Posted on 2/7/15 at 1:28 pm to rlp
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Nor will you get back the pay you missed while on strike
Nor will you get it back while they lock you out.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 2:23 pm to Txgrl43
85% of responses here stem from jealousy.... You guys have to keep in mind most of the OT is employed by Walgreens/Walmart/Burger King etc.... I'm glad I work in finance! GL oil guys! Get your money! Gotta stop the growing gap between workers and CEOs!
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:06 am to Ellakennedi
Whats sad is, that all of the people on here bitching about the unions, have done the exact same thing, and then want to complain about the union. If you've ever gone to a car lot and negotiated the price on a car, then you need to STFU. Its no different than what the union is doing with these companies. Its called negotiating.
This post was edited on 2/9/15 at 10:55 am
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:13 am to justusstone
The non union LA refineries and the whole offshore industry says you're full of shite.
This post was edited on 2/9/15 at 11:06 am
Posted on 2/9/15 at 10:56 am to GREENHEAD22
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The non union LA refineries and the whole offshore industry says your full of shite.
As in "your" shite, showing posession of the shite? Or, "you're" full of shite, as in you are full of shite?
Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:10 am to Cornholio
My secretary worries about that trivial shite. Its a message board, I am not wasting time check my correct grammar/spelling or use of slang. Especially while trying to type it on my phone.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:10 am to GREENHEAD22
The non Union plant workers do benefit. Union plants set the pattern for pay and benefits forcing even the non Union plants to keep up with them in order to retain employees.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:46 am to fightin tigers
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No recordable emmisions,
BS, they manipulate the numbers.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:25 pm to double d
Getting into Lyondell yesterday was a pain. Get to go again tonight.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 3:26 pm to FleurDeLonestar
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Getting into Lyondell yesterday was a pain. Get to go again tonight.
What kind of work are you doing?
Posted on 2/9/15 at 3:36 pm to double d
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BS, they manipulate the numbers.
A company manipulating? Nah.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 7:27 pm to fightin tigers
Any recent info?
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