re: OB's thought on what happened this morning.

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A deer can do a lot prior to the arrow arriving at that distance. If you are saying you are 100% confident on 45yd shots on a whitetail, you are either lying or delusional. Either way, from now on your comments should come with the disclaimer of "This is from the man who kills 10/10 deer at 45yds with my bow."

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Jesus fricking christ. Do you know what the term relative means? Of course anything can happen on a 45 yard shot on a whitetail. The difference between "anything can happen, you wont kill 10/10 deers" and "I have put all the work in in practicing and becoming as consistent as possible to know that if I put the work in, I will make a good shot all things considered". Relative. The argument you are making is not relative. My father in law swears he can put an accurate shot at 80 yards consistently and he is a very good shot. But it turns into a dick measuring contest with him and yea he can bullseye and 80 yard shot.....1/10 times. That doesnt mean he should shoot 80 yards on a deer with a bow. He is the "if it passes in front of me im slinging an arrow" type.

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So, you have never missed or wounded a deer inside 45 yards? I know guys that tear up arrows at 45 yards and they have missed plenty, but they hunt a lot.

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That's not at all what Im saying. Im saying that it's a high percentage shot and that it's an ethical ATTEMPT. This about what goes on before you even pull the trigger and knowing your limitations. Im not arguing about harvesting animals. Im arguing about ethics before taking a shot.

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Im saying that it's a high percentage shot and that it's an ethical ATTEMPT.

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So 200yds at a deer with a rifle is not? Wut?

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The ENTIRE point of all of this is that for some people it is and some people it isnt

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No, you said a 200 yd shot on a whitetail is the same as a headshot or some bs like that. Then you said you are confident 10/10 of your shots on deer at 45 yds will find their mark. Byron Freaking Ferguson wouldn't say some shite like that. Shooting a target at 45yds is entirely different than killing a deer at 45yds with a bow. If you don't recognize this you haven't bowhunted much.

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200 yards is not a high percentage shot. Probably shouldnt have taken it

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This was your initial post.

You feel comfortable shooting at 45 yards with groups that are around about 4 inches or so. You have nor had any idea of what the OP has done nor his capabilities, which at 200 yards is probably tighter than 4 inches.

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That's just as unethical as shooting for the head and clipping the bottom jaw off.

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Lets not mince words, you came in swinging. There is no indication the OP did anything unethical.

dick shot. Tips are darker than the shaft.

this is worst than the OT!



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this is worst than the OT!

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I make on simple comment questioning the ethics of a hunter (which this board is usually all about) and I get jumped on from every angle. Of course I will defend myself. There were multiple people, including well respected posters on this board, that completely talked down upon and called out anyone that takes headshots on deer in the "where do you place a round on a deer thread" a few days ago and not a single comment was questioned. I say one thing and all hell breaks loose.

this thread

I'm back in this. I went look some more after getting down. Hair was white with brown. I only found 1 drop of blood. I'm confident the deer is dead because I was on the only trail he could have possibly taken, it very thick.

For the record, I have shot and killed multiple deer at over 200 yards. I shoot a 300 WSM because I hunt a pipeline alot and go elk hunting with it. I am shooting 185 gr. bullets and I have my gun zeroed at 225 yards which is +/- 3" out to 350 yards

I shoot target shoot long distances up to 400 yards before the season.