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re: Miles major flaw, excessive loyalty
Posted on 11/26/14 at 9:00 pm to TBone1983
Posted on 11/26/14 at 9:00 pm to TBone1983
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That Oline was beyond bad most of this season.
The O-Line seemed to play pretty damn good against Ole Miss and Bama. Teams are putting more guys in the box that they can block. This isn't on them. We don't have the ability to keep a defense honest.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 9:04 pm to boxcar willie
add in bringing back BDP to destroy our special teams. The clown destroyed our d in 08 and miles welcomes him back after he destroyed Northwestern State. Now our special teams has gone to garbage.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 9:16 pm to boxcar willie
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set a lot of individual records and had a great 3rd down conversion ratio (thanks to Landry, HIll, Mett, and OBJ pulling off some great plays), but compared to the rest of the SEC it was nothing special.
Yup. You are right. If we set records, it's because of great individual effort despite horrible coaching. If we struggle, it's because of horrible coaching despite great individual effort. I forgot who I was talking to.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 9:36 pm to boxcar willie
Well if Miles calls the shots on defense then he put together the best defensive squad ever at LSU. To top that off he put one of the best offensive squads ever at LSU.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 11:31 pm to boxcar willie
Historically, many head coaches at the college level have been known for excessive loyalty to assistant coaches. This is usually emphasized more when the team is underachieving or struggling.
In addition to Cameron, Miles was too loyal to Crowton and Studrawa for sure.
But Miles is not the first at LSU to be like this--DiNardo seemed to be excessively loyal to Tepper and other Tiger head coaches no doubt also suffered from this flaw.
In addition to Cameron, Miles was too loyal to Crowton and Studrawa for sure.
But Miles is not the first at LSU to be like this--DiNardo seemed to be excessively loyal to Tepper and other Tiger head coaches no doubt also suffered from this flaw.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 11:57 pm to PortCityTiger24
You're trying so hard to reject that maybe, JUST maybe that Harris is doing what he supposed to do and it doesn't fit your "Miles just isn't playing him so Miles sucks" narrative. I saw you attack two posters in the thread saying the same thing I did and just completely throwing it to the wayside like it couldn't possibly be true.
I, for one, wouldn't want someone who isn't putting the work in or doing what needs to be done.
Why is that so hard to believe?
I, for one, wouldn't want someone who isn't putting the work in or doing what needs to be done.
Why is that so hard to believe?
Posted on 11/27/14 at 12:27 am to Prominentwon
I "attacked" them? Don't be such a pussy.
I've already explained several times how I have been a big Miles supporter but like most level headed fans call it like I see it. His offenses are rarely good and he latches on to players that underperform. You, on the other hand, are so far from being objective that you talk about BS rumors as if they are fact to defend Miles. Everything around here gets so overblown and bullshite becomes reality so fast. Bunch of grown arse men gossiping like little girls.
I've already explained several times how I have been a big Miles supporter but like most level headed fans call it like I see it. His offenses are rarely good and he latches on to players that underperform. You, on the other hand, are so far from being objective that you talk about BS rumors as if they are fact to defend Miles. Everything around here gets so overblown and bullshite becomes reality so fast. Bunch of grown arse men gossiping like little girls.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 2:14 am to PortCityTiger24
Happy Thanksgiving Ranters!
Posted on 11/27/14 at 3:31 am to Fratigerguy
quote:Next year, we'll tell us all just how much of a qb guru Cam really is. If we show no improvement at the position next year, then it'll be time to start thinking about changes in coaches. Till then, we can't really say that Cam isn't doing his job. He didn't recruit AJ and BH is a true frosh.
So cam has been here 2 years. First year we set school records, SEC records, averaged 36 points per game. This year, poor QB play, and the offense has sputtered. He should be fired?
Posted on 11/27/14 at 6:36 am to boxcar willie
You are absolutely correct. No question. Review every personnel decision he's ever made and you'll find that Les Miles' greatest quality - and weakness - is loyalty to people and, believe me, LSU. He has yet to learn that sometimes loyalties conflict and the leader has to make a difficult decision. Until he learns this lesson we will continue to have personnel issues. I deeply cherish this quality, along with integrity (another of his qualities), and I continue to have a deep respect for Coach Miles. But please, get this figured out. He's not doing right by both Jennings and Harrison by being loyal to Jennings.
This post was edited on 11/27/14 at 6:39 am
Posted on 11/27/14 at 8:17 am to deaconscholar
It's selective loyalty. He's loyal to Jefferson while screwing Lee. He's loyal to Jennings at the expense of the rest of the team. Continuing to play Jennings is not showing a lot of loyalty to the rest of the players.
He does not hesitate to throw players under the bus by blaming execution. The scheme is never the problem. He's loyal until it's time to cover his arse.
I'm also convinced that he DID NOT tell Domingue to kick the ball out of bounds vs. Bama, regardless of what he told the media. Anyone who saw that kick and believes Miles' statement that the intent was to kick the ball out the back of the end zone instead of squibbing is a moron. That's real loyalty there: Lying to throw a kid under the bus to protect his own arse and avoid accountability.
He does not hesitate to throw players under the bus by blaming execution. The scheme is never the problem. He's loyal until it's time to cover his arse.
I'm also convinced that he DID NOT tell Domingue to kick the ball out of bounds vs. Bama, regardless of what he told the media. Anyone who saw that kick and believes Miles' statement that the intent was to kick the ball out the back of the end zone instead of squibbing is a moron. That's real loyalty there: Lying to throw a kid under the bus to protect his own arse and avoid accountability.
This post was edited on 11/27/14 at 8:18 am
Posted on 11/27/14 at 8:23 am to boxcar willie
Excellent psychoanalytic conclusion. the man needs to be gone.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 8:29 am to Slapouttiger
I do agree our oline hasn't been awesome but I believe they have been good with the cards dealt we run I formation and run 80% of time. Def are putting 9-10 in box. 5-6 guys c ant block that many. We pass on 3rd and long with slow developing pass plays and def has their ears pinned back. Our Line looks best when we run out of spread. Even against Arkansas we finally went one possession out of spread and was moving the ball till Jennings fumbled. Our whole offense is much more comfortable out of spread. Just don't understand how coaches can't see that
Posted on 11/27/14 at 8:35 am to Jdawgz
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Our whole offense is much more comfortable out of spread. Just don't understand how coaches can't see that
even if we ran a run heavy shotgun/pistol pro style type offense, with misdirection and motion, as to not get away from Miles wanting to play 'power' football
Posted on 11/27/14 at 9:01 am to Fratigerguy
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So cam has been here 2 years. First year we set school records, SEC records, averaged 36 points per game. This year, poor QB play, and the offense has sputtered. He should be fired?
Come on. The mark of a truly great coach is what he does with marginal talent. Nearly any coach can get production from elite talent like we had last year at QB, WR, RB, and OL.
Work some magic with lesser talent - then I'll call you a great coach.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 9:07 am to boxcar willie
So boxcar, no mention of how his misplaced loyalty kept your son/nephew/cousin at QB through all his putrid performances? You certainly defended Les then when the rest of the fans wanted to vomit watching our offense. What's changed now?
Posted on 11/27/14 at 9:13 am to Commando
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What's changed now?
perhaps a undefeated season and a NC berth vs losing seasons
Posted on 11/27/14 at 9:16 am to cheo25
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It's selective loyalty
not to mention he is loyal to Cam and this style of offense at the expense of our players who played hard enough to beat Bama but were playing handicapped by a terrible offense system
Posted on 11/27/14 at 9:22 am to boxcar willie
Seems to me we had a different QB for most of the wins that year and he got perma-benched as soon as the DA let JJ go, never to return. While leading the SEC in passing. Now THAT was misplaced loyalty, and the best example by far of this major flaw Les has until this year.
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