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re: West Standings (Updated: 2/2) - Who Stays? Who Goes?
Posted on 11/20/14 at 4:42 pm to TigerinATL
Posted on 11/20/14 at 4:42 pm to TigerinATL
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This hasn't been said by anyone in at least 2 years.
It has by me. I think EG is a solid player who is massively overpaid. I don't think he is playing good ball in the system this year and even last year. He is definitely the most talented basketball player on the team outside of AD. Its all about his confidence and explosiveness. He'll never be as explosive as he once was, but I think he could be a good player this year if we stop Tyreke from holding him down.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 4:44 pm to touchdownjeebus
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A gump fan calling me a dumb arse, lulz. Don't you have a lonely cousin you should be tending to?
Really clever stuff
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You overvalue your team like we overvalue ours
No numbers back me up. This was one the best benches in the NBA last season and we added Vince Carter to it, who was 6th in 6 man voting last year and has led the NBA in 3's off the bench in the last couple of years.
This was never a Pels vs. Grizz thing. I never do this on here. Hell I rarely post on here unless I see something so egregiously stupid about the Grizzlies that I have to step in and say something. So congrats.
I don't overvalues anything. This team has had the best record in the NBA since Marc Gasol returned from injury last season and the bench was a large part of that. Hell the bench dropped 56 on the Rockets just the other night.
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 11/20/14 at 4:52 pm to TheSexecutioner
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It has by me.
So your argument against everyone else is supported by something that only you have said...
Want to know how I know you're trolling us?
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 4:54 pm
Posted on 11/20/14 at 4:57 pm to unibrownation
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Spurs- Boris Diaw
Heat- Chris Bosh (not a defensive liability but still)
Mavs- dirk
Boris Diaw is not a stretch 4 and was like the 5th most important player on that team. In his 3 seasons with the Spurs, he's taken 1 3pt shot per game. He's also playing on the one team in basketball that undeniably achieves more than the sum of their parts. Spurs winning was not evidence of the stretch 4 being valuable.
Chris Bosh was not a defensive liability. There is no "but still".... At no point did I say that being able to stretch the floor hurt a team. But given the choice between combining Bosh's defense with LBJ and Wade vs his 3pt shooting, almost everyone would take his defense.
Dirk is a once in a generation player and a legit 7ft tall. Ryno is 2 inches shorter with short arms. If Dirk was only 6'10 with short arms, his legacy as an all around player would be very different. In incredible part of his value is that he can't just be rebounded and shot over by more athletic 4s.
And in what defense would Hibbert or Howard ever be guarding a stretch 4 instead of a center? If its an offense where Ryno is playing as the Center than we are in big trouble on the defensive end. And I'm not saying stretch 4s are overvalued by the whole world necessarily. Im saying this board has a tendency to overvalue them because we have a good one who is incredibly likable.
I guess a better way to put it would be that this board undervalues forwards that are tough, big, athletic and rebound and defend well. Like Kendrick Perkins. And I'm not saying Kendrick Perkins would be as valuable to this team as Ryno. But they are closer in value than Ryno is to Z-Bo.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 4:58 pm to TigerinATL
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So your argument against everyone else is supported by something that only you have said...
Want to know how I know you're trolling us?
Get rid of him. Although I think most people admit he was a good player last year when they weren't bitching about his contract.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 5:16 pm to TheSexecutioner
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You are the idiot. My point is that even the fans know that we aren't an amazing team.
Double down on your moronic opinion you dolt. My whole point was that you point to fans opinions 10 games into a season as if it has any weight at all. What the frick does it matter that the fans thought we'd fight for an 8 seed if at the end of it all we are a 50 win team and the 4th seed?
Posted on 11/20/14 at 5:51 pm to Hester Carries
I think everyone expects us to get to around 50 wins. But that might not get us the playoffs. We could very realistically be a top ten NBA team and miss the playoffs.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 7:50 pm to Hester Carries
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My whole point was that you point to fans opinions 10 games into a season as if it has any weight at all. What the frick does it matter that the fans thought we'd fight for an 8 seed if at the end of it all we are a 50 win team and the 4th seed?
I've explained already. I'm comparing peoples opinion of the individual players and peoples opinion of the team. They don't match. Either they are underestimating the team or overestimating the players.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:02 pm to TheSexecutioner
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Either they are underestimating the team or overestimating the players.
Well you said you would trade Tyreke Evans for Jordan Adams so your opinions are invalid
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:07 pm to Hester Carries
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trade Tyreke Evans for Jordan Adams
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:09 pm to THRILLHO
Sounds like a good trade to me
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:13 pm to Hester Carries
Doesn't think much of Jrue and Tyreke.
Uses over the top ridiculous arguments as if they're legit.
Argues ridiculous points even after they've been exposed because it's all about winning arguments and not seeking knowledge.
Is this another Alejandro alter? And if so why the hell does he need so many?
Uses over the top ridiculous arguments as if they're legit.
Argues ridiculous points even after they've been exposed because it's all about winning arguments and not seeking knowledge.
Is this another Alejandro alter? And if so why the hell does he need so many?
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:16 pm to TheSexecutioner
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He runs out the shot clock by holding it and then forces the offense to have a low percentage play(often his own layup).
Seems like lineups with Reke are working pretty well offensively, and that's with EG shooting like absolute dogshit for 7 out of 10 games.
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 9:17 pm
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:53 pm to THRILLHO
omg...that defensive rating though
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:57 pm to htran90
The one with Ryno is awful. The one with Asik is very good.
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 11:59 pm
Posted on 11/21/14 at 12:01 am to TigerinATL
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Doesn't think much of Jrue and Tyreke.
Uses over the top ridiculous arguments as if they're legit.
Argues ridiculous points even after they've been exposed because it's all about winning arguments and not seeking knowledge.
Is this another Alejandro alter? And if so why the hell does he need so many?
This isn't the first time he's done this.
I don't think he's an alejandro alter. Sirwinston comes close to his style but I doubt it.
This post was edited on 11/21/14 at 12:01 am
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:41 am to LosLobos111
What's the western conferences record against the east this year?
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:59 am to VermilionTiger
Something like 39-18.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 9:13 am to TigerinATL
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Is this another Alejandro alter? And if so why the hell does he need so many?
I think another poster said they knew him personally awhile back, so I don't think Sexecutioner is an alter.
He's just an a-hole. Pretty sure the admins have given him timeouts a few times.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 9:24 am to Fun Bunch
same admin that moved teh Harden thread to Pels talk?
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