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re: Audiophile/Vinyl Thread - Post Pics, Advice, Questions, Setups, etc.

Posted on 8/14/19 at 7:36 pm to
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 8/14/19 at 7:36 pm to
Having to move out of the house, and have 6 acoustic panels that'd be nice for someone in need. 2'x4'.

Any suggestions where I might could move these in the BR area?
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 8:43 pm to
Update on the old speaker/stereo receiver issue. I used the Deoxit but it still sounds awful with the phono input. What should my next step be?
Posted by r3lay3r
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:25 pm to
Find another turntable to plug in to test the input.

What does the cartridge stylus look like? Clean, not broken? Straight?

You could plug the turntable into one of one of the other inputs and see what it sounds like. The equalization will be out of whack, but see if it at least sound musical.
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 9:28 pm
Posted by NyCaLa
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Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 6:18 am to
my money is on the stylus/cartridge
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:50 am to
The stylus and cartridge are fine. I bought the turntable new less than a year ago, and it sounds fine when plugged into my soundbar.

With the turntable plugged into the phono input, you can tell what's being played. You can hear the record... it sounds "musical." It's just very distorted and bad quality.
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:38 pm to
I'm pretty sure my turntable has two outputs: LINE and PHONO. Is it possible that I'm using the wrong output? (I'd like to reiterate that I don't know dick.)
Posted by r3lay3r
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 4:34 pm to
Hmm... So if it has two outputs, then it must have a built-in phono preamp. If that is so, you should definitely use the phono output to the phono input of your receiver. But in the same vane you could use the output (which should use the built in phono-pre) and go to one of the line inputs of your reciever.
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 4:36 pm to
Hm. I didn't see a "line" input on the receiver. Only PHONO. It's from 1979.
Posted by r3lay3r
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 4:36 pm to
Line is any input other than phono
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 4:41 pm to
Told you I was fricking ignorant, lol.
Posted by r3lay3r
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 4:41 pm to
I googled the turntable and it said it has a switchable phono preamp out. So if you switch off the turntable preamp, you can use the one in your receiver (Phono input). If you leave the turntable preamp engaged, then you need to go to an AUX or any other input on the receiver and set the input selector on the front panel to that input to play the turntable.
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
2374 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 5:00 pm to
I think we've hit on a solution. Thanks dude. I will definitely try this as soon as I get home!
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
Member since Jul 2013
11428 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 5:52 pm to
Yep...what r3lay3r said.
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
2374 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:49 pm to
That did it. They sound awesome actually. Thanks a lot dude!
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
2374 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 1:35 pm to
There's a Sansui Classique 250T turntable available for sale in my area. $50.00. It looks to be in great shape. Would this be an upgrade over my Audio-Technica LP60 (their bottom of the line model)?
Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:20 pm to
Can't find much info on it, but saw a 350T sold on ebay for a little less than $50. So the price is probably about average. Can't comment on quality of that model, soryr.
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
Member since Jul 2013
11428 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 3:43 am to
$50...go for it.

Yes, even at 50 years old, once properly cleaned, bearing re-greased, and a decent cartridge bought (Grado or Ortofon—can be had for $80-100), you will have a better table. The tone arm alone on it is worth it over the AT-60 (not calling your baby ugly...but your baby is ugly). The AT-60 weighs a WHOPPING 6 pounds (sarcasm), including the cartridge, 2 sets of cables, power cord, internal phono stage, and the platter/plinth. You need MASS in a turntable, and the Sansui should be in the 14-18 lb. range by itself.

Although that Sansui table doesn’t run with the likes of Dual, Thorens, or Lenco turntables of the ‘60’s, and it was probably Sansui’s entry level, it isn’t junk. It predates junk (junk tables became popular in the early ‘70’s)—and Sansui was a very reputable name in the ‘60’s—early pioneers (pun intended) of Japanese hi-fi.

If you use the internal phono stage in the AT-60, you will need a phono stage (preamp) for the Sansui if you plan to run it into a “line-level” input on a receiver. If the receiver has a “phono” input, you are good to go.
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
2374 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:06 am to
Wow, awesome info, Marco. I'm going to buy it today. Gonna go ahead and order a new cartridge too.

The AT-60 sounds okay, but aesthetically it just looks and feels cheap. The whole thing is plastic. I would've spent an extra $100-150 when I bought it if I'd done more research. I just bought what the guy at the record store told me to buy.
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
2374 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:14 am to
Can you point me to a specific cartridge that you'd recommend for this table?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:46 am to
Marco, any thoughts on a Harman Kardon ST8 turntable? I've never fooled with a linear drive turntable, and from my initial research this model was their top of the line, but can be a bit finicky. Pretty sure I'm going to buy it because it's a great price, but not sure what I'm getting myself into with it. It has a Shure V15 Type IV cartridge on it and was recently serviced.
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