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For all the Miles Pumpers
Posted on 9/23/14 at 12:06 am
Posted on 9/23/14 at 12:06 am
Great, he's got the winningest record in LSU football history. There's also more games played nowadays than back in the day. He's also been here the second longest of any coach in school history. And if he stays till his contract is up he'll be here the longest.
Also, look at the way we win a lot of our ballgames. It's a play not to lose style of play. Not a play to win the game style of play. He doesn't have that killer instinct that a head coach must have. Cool, we won a NC in 2007-2008. Hell, we got into the game by pure luck.
He makes no adjustments...ever. You know what majority of people's definition of insane is? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome. At some point, you have to change things and the simple fact of the matter is, he won't.
And look at the way we look when we lose. Most of the games we lose, yes a lot of the losses are to teams that have as much talent as us. But most losses aren't good looking losses. We don't usually look good in our losses as a team. Not prepared, not excited or enthused. But instead, flat out of the gates and try to turn it on in the second half. But do you understand how hard it is in sports when you're slow and flat out of the gates?
Now, am I saying that I'm not proud of what he's done at LSU? Well, lemme retract that question, am I saying that I'm not proud of what the players he's recruited have done? Hell no. We have put an incredible amount of players in the NFL since he's been here. But it seems those players skyrocket in the NFL. And my guess on that is because they actually get some good coaching and progress their talent levels to NFL standards.
That's all I'm gonna say.
TL;DR: Wins don't always mean you're a good coach. And gfy
/end rant
Also, look at the way we win a lot of our ballgames. It's a play not to lose style of play. Not a play to win the game style of play. He doesn't have that killer instinct that a head coach must have. Cool, we won a NC in 2007-2008. Hell, we got into the game by pure luck.
He makes no adjustments...ever. You know what majority of people's definition of insane is? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome. At some point, you have to change things and the simple fact of the matter is, he won't.
And look at the way we look when we lose. Most of the games we lose, yes a lot of the losses are to teams that have as much talent as us. But most losses aren't good looking losses. We don't usually look good in our losses as a team. Not prepared, not excited or enthused. But instead, flat out of the gates and try to turn it on in the second half. But do you understand how hard it is in sports when you're slow and flat out of the gates?
Now, am I saying that I'm not proud of what he's done at LSU? Well, lemme retract that question, am I saying that I'm not proud of what the players he's recruited have done? Hell no. We have put an incredible amount of players in the NFL since he's been here. But it seems those players skyrocket in the NFL. And my guess on that is because they actually get some good coaching and progress their talent levels to NFL standards.
That's all I'm gonna say.
TL;DR: Wins don't always mean you're a good coach. And gfy
/end rant
Posted on 9/23/14 at 12:12 am to TigerFanInSouthland
I realize your ranting. That being said, lets see how the season plays out. I think Les has earned that at least.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 12:14 am to TigerFanInSouthland
this is like the anti-ballscaster
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 12:18 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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Great, he's got the winningest record in LSU football history. There's also more games played nowadays than back in the day.
I see a lesson in statistics and percentages coming up very quickly in your future. I'd do it myself, but it's late a math puts me to sleep.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 12:18 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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You know what majority of people's definition of insane is? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome
Albert Einstein said this, and the majority of people repeat it.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 12:22 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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Not a play to win the game style of play. He doesn't have that killer instinct that a head coach must have
I completely agree.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 12:25 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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And look at the way we look when we lose. Most of the games we lose, yes a lot of the losses are to teams that have as much talent as us. But most losses aren't good looking losses. We don't usually look good in our losses as a team. Not prepared, not excited or enthused. But instead, flat out of the gates and try to turn it on in the second half. But do you understand how hard it is in sports when you're slow and flat out of the gates?
I challenge to to provide examples of this other than the game in the Dome. Most of the losses have been hard fought games. With only a handful of utter blowouts.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 12:26 am to TigerFanInSouthland
What does winning percentage have to do with how many games are played?
Sorry, but winning games IS the definition of a good coach. You may not ENJOY the Miles philosophy, but that also has nothing to do with his coaching abilities. Winning championships is very hard to come by. Staying at or near the top of CFB is all a fan base should ask for.
He's won 10 games each of the last four years. 8-5 should be acceptable this year given the youth on this team.
Sorry, but winning games IS the definition of a good coach. You may not ENJOY the Miles philosophy, but that also has nothing to do with his coaching abilities. Winning championships is very hard to come by. Staying at or near the top of CFB is all a fan base should ask for.
He's won 10 games each of the last four years. 8-5 should be acceptable this year given the youth on this team.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 12:37 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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Cool, we won a NC in 2007-2008
Yeah, that is fricking cool.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 1:00 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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Great, he's got the winningest record in LSU football history. There's also more games played nowadays than back in the day
What difference does that make. 1 win is still 1 win.
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Also, look at the way we win a lot of our ballgames. It's a play not to lose style of play. Not a play to win the game style of play. He doesn't have that killer instinct that a head coach must have. Cool, we won a NC in 2007-2008. Hell, we got into the game by pure luck.
Dumb statement. Only 1 team that year had 1-loss. Everyone else had 2-losses. We smashed #3 VTech by almost 40 points and we won the SEC. That's what ultimately got us into the game.
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He makes no adjustments...ever. You know what majority of people's definition of insane is? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome. At some point, you have to change things and the simple fact of the matter is, he won't.
Did you watch the team at all last year? Maybe we went back to a boring running game, because our QBs aren't good enough to run a wide open offense yet. Let's be honest, Jennings has had 5 starts now and Harris was in high school last year and is still learning the playbook. It's foolish to think either of them are going to do what Mett did last year.
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But most losses aren't good looking losses.
No loss is a good looking loss when you are competing as a NC contender.
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But it seems those players skyrocket in the NFL. And my guess on that is because they actually get some good coaching and progress their talent levels to NFL standards.
Or because they bail out after 3 years instead of 4 or 5. Another year of experience and conditioning in college makes a huge difference in CFB.
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gfy
you first
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 1:07 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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Cool, we won a NC in 2007
Yeah, a NC is nice. No big deal.
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Hell, we got into the game by pure luck
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He makes no adjustments...ever.
I don't know. Sometimes the team plays better in the second half. Like against Wisc.
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But most losses aren't good looking losses
There's only been a few losses that weren't close and hard-fought, and most of those were in 2008.
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We don't usually look good in our losses as a team. Not prepared, not excited or enthused. But
Which is how many teams look when they lose. But many LSU losses were hard-fought.
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But it seems those players skyrocket in the NFL.
Meh.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 1:29 am to TigerFanInSouthland
So you wrote a bunch of BS to state you think our players stay stagnant during their time here and don't progress until pros? What a load of crap. This just proves us miles pumpers right. If you guys don't like the product then don't watch it.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 2:30 am to TigerFanInSouthland
You are one ignorant arse poster. How many times do people have to point out the obvious before you open your eyes?
If Les should have done anything different it should have been to keep those two junior DTs without decent draft grades on the team this year. One of those guys on the field in this game would have kept your arse quiet and not posting stupidity.
And yeah, 16 and 19 yr olds do look foolish at times when playing guys 2 and three years older than they are. It's called growing pains and they cost us the game. If Les was a loser then the team would not have come close to taking MSU's best punches and almost came back in the end.
And... you're a doooooooche.
If Les should have done anything different it should have been to keep those two junior DTs without decent draft grades on the team this year. One of those guys on the field in this game would have kept your arse quiet and not posting stupidity.
And yeah, 16 and 19 yr olds do look foolish at times when playing guys 2 and three years older than they are. It's called growing pains and they cost us the game. If Les was a loser then the team would not have come close to taking MSU's best punches and almost came back in the end.
And... you're a doooooooche.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 2:34 am to TigerFanInSouthland
I heard LSU t shirts at wal mart just went on sale. Although I'm sure you're already in line
Posted on 9/23/14 at 3:50 am to TigerFanInSouthland
Have to agree. Miles seems like a nice man but if y'all got a real good coach y'all would be like Bama-good every year competing for NC's or being right up there in 3rdish place in the nation. Y'all have so much talent but it's like it doesn't consistently get utilized the right way.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 3:54 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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Wins don't always mean you're a good coach.
Nice. Has a solid beat and is easy to dance to.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 6:05 am to TigerFanInSouthland
Best of all possible outcomes: CLM is a great guy and does seem LSU almost to the core (with forgivable shared space for Michigan). I would like, no - I would love to see him wake up out of his coaching trance and emerge as a confident, innovative and determined HC who will coach his teams to pursue victory (and not to just avoid losing). He will also entrust his assistants to expect and equip the skills and desire for excellence from the players; entrust the team to perform at highest levels all the time. And have the wisdom and resolve to make changes when needed (not way later) if or when staff or players are not doing their jobs. If CLM could just get himself to that point I doubt if anybody would be complaining (legitimately).
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