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re: Hollywood had worst summer in 17 years
Posted on 9/3/14 at 1:12 pm to BilJ
Posted on 9/3/14 at 1:12 pm to BilJ
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I think it's less about the quality of movies and more about home viewing options getting better and better.
There's that and with rising ticket prices I make a value judgment about what kinds of movies are likely to be better on teh big screen and what types are unlikely to be more enjoyable in a theater.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 1:19 pm to CocomoLSU
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Rarely do you see Hollywood throwing any kind of budget to new, original ideas. Because the gamble is too big and they won't risk it not paying off.
And the only time they do anymore is with an Indie budget and a limited release. Which is great if you live in a larger city that would get those viewings. But there are a lot who don't.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 1:24 pm to BluegrassBelle
Godzilla and Guardians are the only films i have seen in the theater at release, otherwise i wait till they hit the dollar movies here and go see them then.
1 dollar vs 5.50+ ticket price, dollar movie wins everytime. plus it opens at 9am, so i can get a movie in before i go do stuff in the afternoon.
1 dollar vs 5.50+ ticket price, dollar movie wins everytime. plus it opens at 9am, so i can get a movie in before i go do stuff in the afternoon.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 1:38 pm to CocomoLSU
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This is what I was about to say. It seems like Hollywood doesn't take many chances anymore...everything has to be guaranteed to make money and do solid business. And part of that is because people are becoming more and more tight on what they spend (and movies are most definitely a luxury that people can afford to let go).
So Hollywood focuses on making movies that can guarantee asses in the seats. So you get things like several sequels of successful movies, comic book movies (which are hot right now and have been for a while), animated movies (family demo), and guaranteed success based on already-existing mega franchises (like Hunger Games, Twilight, etc.).
I think the decline of DVD/bluray sales has a hand in this. They used to be able to do well on the back end of movies that didn't perform as well at the box office. People don't seen to be buying new release DVDs like they used to so they have to play it as safe as possible to try and make their money at the box office
Posted on 9/3/14 at 1:42 pm to classictiger
Only movie I saw in theaters this summer was when the game stands tall
Posted on 9/3/14 at 1:42 pm to Thracken13
There's still and always will be something special about going to the theater and experiencing a movie with many others. However, the movie business is in the midst of a major transformation and by 2020 will be a completely different world.
There's just so many factors pushing the industry into the unknown right now. No one out here really has a clue anyway. As William Goldman famously said, nobody knows anything. Sadly, I think the gap between the studio big budget recycled stuff and the low-budget indies continues to widen. I would love to see a Renaissance of sorts around the corner, but the studios are digging in their heels right now. Just look at the slates they have released 5-6 years in the future.
There's just so many factors pushing the industry into the unknown right now. No one out here really has a clue anyway. As William Goldman famously said, nobody knows anything. Sadly, I think the gap between the studio big budget recycled stuff and the low-budget indies continues to widen. I would love to see a Renaissance of sorts around the corner, but the studios are digging in their heels right now. Just look at the slates they have released 5-6 years in the future.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 2:02 pm to CocomoLSU
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You can't say that when IM made ~$400 million and MoS made ~$300 (and those are just domestic numbers).
I check box office mojo every week, and I have noticed that a lot of movies this year, even the "successful" ones, haven't made as much as movies past.
I think everything people have said in this thread has had an affect...from a-hole theater goers to solid TV programming to rising ticket prices, etc. Not to mention that movies hit DVDs/rentals quicker and quicker these days.
I still prefer theaters, but the friends I used to go with the most don't live near me anymore. So now it takes something I am really dying to see to get me out and into a theater.
This. The biggest part, I believe, is ticket price with the inconvenience factor growing as ticket prices do. The more you have to pay, the less annoyance you feel you should have to put up with.
Theaters like iPic are growing in popularity for a reason. While tickets are definitely pricier, you get the convenience of restaurant food, extremely roomy and comfortable seating along with a no-bullshite tolerance policy where they will show someone the door with "Teh Quickness" for texting, talking or having their crying-arse baby bothering others.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 2:11 pm to DallasTiger11
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There's still and always will be something special about going to the theater and experiencing a movie with many others.
Yeah well blockbuster used to believe people would always prefer the "experience" of going into their stores. When in reality the customers fricking hated the blockbuster experience and could not wait for a better alternative.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 2:34 pm to classictiger
They reap what they sow - eventually.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 2:36 pm to BluegrassBelle
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And the only time they do anymore is with an Indie budget and a limited release. Which is great if you live in a larger city that would get those viewings. But there are a lot who don't
This is what I don't get about the movie industry- for the first time, especially with digital projectors, they can actually let the moviegoer decide which released movie they would like to see. Why not have a cue, similar to the movies OnDemand on cable that is available and smaller screening rooms instead of huge auditoriums that really only fill up ,maybe once or twice a week now?
Posted on 9/3/14 at 2:42 pm to BluegrassBelle
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And the only time they do anymore is with an Indie budget and a limited release. Which is great if you live in a larger city that would get those viewings. But there are a lot who don't.
Here's one frustrating thing about the current movie industry. When I was growing up(I'm 39) I lived in a relatively small town. We had 2 movie theaters, each with 6 screens. Both had completely different lineup of movies playing. I can vaguely remember being able to discern which movies would be at which theater based on the production company. One theater was a Cobb and I think the other was AMC.
Now, every theater has the same exact lineup of movies. I live in Birmingham and none of the 10 or so theaters in town ever get the smaller budget/indie films. One theater just started playing Boyhood last week. Wish I had the money to open a smaller art house theater here. I think there's a market for it.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 2:46 pm to classictiger
If it didn't cost so much I would see more movies.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 3:03 pm to classictiger
Good. All the big blockbuster movies sucked this summer outside of maybe edge of tomorrow.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 3:09 pm to betweenthebara
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Good. All the big blockbuster movies sucked this summer outside of maybe edge of tomorrow.
Guardians, X-Men, and Planet of the Apes absolutely did not suck.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 3:12 pm to classictiger
Transformers 4 was a huge hit
Get ready for more
Get ready for more
Posted on 9/3/14 at 3:46 pm to betweenthebara
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Good. All the big blockbuster movies sucked this summer outside of maybe edge of tomorrow.
This post was edited on 9/3/14 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 9/3/14 at 4:09 pm to Cockopotamus
If I lived near Dothan I would go to the drive-in and see a first run double header for $8/adult, buy popcorn and a couple of burgers, and smuggle in a 6 pack.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 4:53 pm to Dr RC
quote:This. They really are exploiting the general public's short attention span with this. Frankly, it's made most of the movies they preview seem totally fricking cheesy and formulaic. I roll my eyes at most previews.
most previews these days are fricking terrible jumbled messes of random jokes and action scenes strung nonsensically together to the point that nobody even know what the frick half these movies are even about.
On the subject of previews, a big part of the reason that I rarely go to the movies anymore is because there are just too god damn many of them. After you're done flushing your week's pay down the toilet on concessions, you're done with them long before the feature even starts. And to make it worse, now they're cramming commercials in before the previews. Commercials!! The lack of them was what made part of the appeal of going in the first place. Now there's 10mins of commercials, 30 minutes of previews (which just seem like the same movie over and over), and all of the drinkless, popcorn-less patrons have to piss by the time the fricking thing even starts. I'm tired of sitting in the theater so long that my arse hurts and I'm ready for the movie to end.
It's just gotten to where the negatives far outweigh the positives for me. And if they don't scale back the absurd amount of previews, they'll never fully recover.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 5:12 pm to classictiger
Eh. Transformers was the most successful movie of the year, by a lot. The formula now is appealing to overseas markets. I do think something should be said for the success of some of the Indies this year, primarily Grand Budapest.
This post was edited on 9/3/14 at 5:14 pm
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