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re: Don Lemon (CNN) doesn't know different between Semi-Auto and Auto Weapons
Posted on 8/21/14 at 9:57 am to Taxing Authority
Posted on 8/21/14 at 9:57 am to Taxing Authority
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A guy stands before the nation claiming the mantle of informing the public
Who the hell is standing before the nation claiming the mantle of informing the public?
I'd venture to guess 99% of the country had not seen this. quote:
No offense you your first statement would indicate you're a victim of said ignorance.
No offense but there's nothing intelligent about your post.
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:00 am to Vegas Bengal
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Same with an automatic weapon. If a liberal mentions it, there is no such thing.
Your strawmen are better when they are funny pictures.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:00 am to Vegas Bengal
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buh buh but I thought there was no such thing as an "automatic weapon". At least I've seen it said here numerous times.
What is this bullshite? You people are such liars. There is really no point in trying to have honest dialogue with these liberal fanatics. They are interested in pushing their agenda through whatever tactics prove effective at the given moment. It's as simple as that.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:00 am to Vegas Bengal
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buh buh but I thought there was no such thing as an "automatic weapon". At least I've seen it said here numerous times.
Link to someone staying this?
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:00 am to Eighteen
Lefties in general, and journalists in particular, being fricking clueless about guns isn't a new thing.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:00 am to Vegas Bengal
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buh buh but I thought there was no such thing as an "automatic weapon".
No - there are such things, but the things they're railing about/trying to ban aren't.
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At least I've seen it said here numerous times.
I love you VB, but, obviously, reading comprehension isn't your strong suit.
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This is like the "tea party". When a liberal mentions the tea party, we're told there is no tea party.
No - you misrepresent the movement, and we call you on it. The "Tea Party" as we knew it was crushed by the IRS and the media calling them racists - which should be chilling to someone of any political stripe.
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If a liberal mentions it, there is no such thing.
No. If you call a semiautomatic weapon a ham sandwich, it doesn't mean you can eat it. Semiautomatic weapons and automatic weapons are different things. Calling one the other so you can ban all guns won't work with educated people who understand the difference.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:01 am to Vegas Bengal
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buh buh but I thought there was no such thing as an "automatic weapon". At least I've seen it said here numerous times.
This is like the "tea party". When a liberal mentions the tea party, we're told there is no tea party. But then cons freely speak of the tea party.
Same with an automatic weapon. If a liberal mentions it, there is no such thing.
You seem relatively intelligent but this is an idiotic post.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:01 am to Eighteen
OP:
Thank you for finding the video. I saw that exchange last night and was dumbfounded at how ignorant and indignant in that ignorance the host was. I posted about it last night but no video was available. Thanks for sharing it with the masses.
Thank you for finding the video. I saw that exchange last night and was dumbfounded at how ignorant and indignant in that ignorance the host was. I posted about it last night but no video was available. Thanks for sharing it with the masses.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:09 am to Vegas Bengal
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buh buh but I thought there was no such thing as an "automatic weapon". At least I've seen it said here numerous times.
LINK
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In 1995 there were over 240,000 machine guns registered with the ATF. (Zawitz, Marianne,Bureau of Justice Statistics, Guns Used in Crime [PDF].) About half are owned by civilians and the other half by police departments and other governmental agencies (Gary Kleck, Targeting Guns: Firearms and Their Control, Walter de Gruyter, Inc., New York, 1997.)
Since 1934, there appear to have been at least two homicides committed with legally owned automatic weapons. One was a murder committed by a law enforcement officer (as opposed to a civilian). On September 15th, 1988, a 13-year veteran of the Dayton, Ohio police department, Patrolman Roger Waller, then 32, used his fully automatic MAC-11 .380 caliber submachine gun to kill a police informant, 52-year-old Lawrence Hileman. Patrolman Waller pleaded guilty in 1990, and he and an accomplice were sentenced to 18 years in prison. The 1986 'ban' on sales of new machine guns does not apply to purchases by law enforcement or government agencies.
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Thanks to the staff of the Columbus, Ohio Public Library for the details of the Waller case.
Source: talk.politics.guns FAQ, part 2.
The other homicide, possibly involving a legally owned machine gun, occurred on September 14, 1992, also in Ohio (source).
In Targeting Guns, Kleck cites the director of ATF testifying before Congress that he knew of less than ten crimes that were committed with legally owned machine guns (no time period was specified). Kleck says these crimes could have been nothing more than violations of gun regulations such as failure to notify ATF after moving a registered gun between states.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:17 am to Vegas Bengal
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buh buh but I thought there was no such thing as an "automatic weapon". At least I've seen it said here numerous times.
This is like the "tea party". When a liberal mentions the tea party, we're told there is no tea party. But then cons freely speak of the tea party.
Same with an automatic weapon. If a liberal mentions it, there is no such thing
holy crap, this is even more cringe worthy than the video in the OP
you are talking about the debate between "assault rifle" and "assault weapons" (which is the term that was completely invented and has no real meaning...literally every gun is an "assault weapon"). these are also the same people that think the "AR" in AR-15 stands for "assault rifle"
has nothing to do with the automatic vs. semi automatic debate
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 10:21 am
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:19 am to sugar71
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but easy to convert from semi to fully automatic
Semis aren't easy to convert if you want it to function reliably, but it can be done if you're a top notch machinist with access to a fully equipped machine shop. Make no mistake, this isn't the sort of thing the average guy can do in his garage.
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 10:23 am
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:21 am to trackfan
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if you're a top notch machinist.
Well that doesn't sound very easy then...
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:23 am to wickowick
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Well that doesn't sound very easy then...
It's not easy at all, and I know from personal experience.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:25 am to Eighteen
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That’s when Ferguson pounced.
His name's really Ferguson?
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:25 am to Eighteen
This matters sooooo much - the distinction between technical meanings and conventional meanings of words. You should send Lemmon some hate mail.
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While both "semi automatic" and "fully automatic" weapons are "automatic" in the technical sense that the firearm automatically cycles between rounds with each trigger pull, under conventional usage a merely semi-automatic firearm is not correctly referred to as an "automatic weapon" or an "automatic firearm."
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 10:29 am
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:27 am to Eighteen
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you are talking about the debate between "assault rifle" and "assault weapons" (which is the term that was completely invented and has no real meaning...literally every gun is an "assault weapon").
More rubbish. Parsing words. You're like children giggling together about how adults can't understand a word. "OH MY GOD, HE SAID AUTOMATIC WEAPON!" "HE SAID ASSAULT RIFLE!" As if anyone besides nuts gives a flying frick.
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 10:28 am
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:31 am to Vegas Bengal
Do you not think accuracy in reporting matters? Accuracy is for nuts? 
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:32 am to Vegas Bengal
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More rubbish. Parsing words. You're like children giggling together about how adults can't understand a word. "OH MY GOD, HE SAID AUTOMATIC WEAPON!" "HE SAID ASSAULT RIFLE!" As if anyone besides nuts gives a flying frick.
This is absolutely insane. There is a HUGE different between an automatic rifle (also called a machine gun) and a semi-automatic rife. Parsing words?
This is an AR-15 rifle. It is the most popular rifle sold in the United States today. Millions have been sold to American citizens since 1963. Like the majority of firearms sold in the United States, the AR-15 is semi-automatic. This means it fires one round each time the trigger is pulled.The AR-15 can fire between 45 and 60 rounds per minute depending on the skill of the operator.
This is a M4A1 carbine. It is a U.S. military service rifle. It is also an assault rifle. The M4A1 is fully automatic. This means it fires multiple rounds each time the trigger is pulled.The M4A1 and other fully automatic firearms are also called machine guns. In 1986, the Federal government banned the sale or transfer of new machine guns to civilians. The M4A1 can fire up to 950 rounds per minute.
Yep, no difference...parsing words
Lemmon and people like you act as if anyone can go buy the MA41 at any gun show or gun shop when it's simple not true at all. The ignorance is absolutely part of the problem.
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 10:35 am
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:34 am to Vegas Bengal
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More rubbish. Parsing words. You're like children giggling together about how adults can't understand a word. "OH MY GOD, HE SAID AUTOMATIC WEAPON!" "HE SAID ASSAULT RIFLE!" As if anyone besides nuts gives a flying frick.
You have got to be rustling jimmies with this. You cant possibly be this obtuse.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:35 am to Vegas Bengal
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buh buh but I thought there was no such thing as an "automatic weapon". At least I've seen it said here numerous times.
What are you babbling about?
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