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re: FOUND: Hamas War Manual (glorifies use of human shields)
Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:47 am to SSpaniel
Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:47 am to SSpaniel
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Why on earth would he want to consult a manual from a time before Israel was even a country?
Because the tactics of terrorists and guerillas haven't changed, only the sophistication of their weapons.
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:49 am to trackfan
quote:Hamas indeed.
terrorists
Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:51 am to trackfan
quote:Only problem is that Hamas was elected in Gaza where there were no Israeli settlements, and the Israelis had withdrawn. Your narrative would have some validity if Hamas had been elected in the West Bank, but that just isn't the case.
Electing Hamas was an expression that Fatah was corrupt and unable to get any concessions from Israel regarding the occupation and settlement building.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:56 am to trackfan
quote:
Is this the quote that you believe "glorifies" human shields? It seems like more a statement of fact to me. Guerilla armies and terrorist groups throughout history have always benefitted from the overreaction of the colonial power or occupation force to increase recruitment. Were the Israelis unaware of this before they read the Hamas manual? Perhaps Bibi should have asked the elders in Likud to borrow one of their old Irgun manuals.
You know you come on here every day with your Israel hate and that's your business, but to try and defend Hamas, an organization that is almost unversally vilified is pathetic.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:58 am to Poodlebrain
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Only problem is that Hamas was elected in Gaza where there were no Israeli settlements, and the Israelis had withdrawn. Your narrative would have some validity if Hamas had been elected in the West Bank, but that just isn't the case.
1) The Palestinian elections in 2006 were for both Gaza and the West Bank, not just Gaza, and Hamas won the whole thing.
2) After Israel pulled out of Gaza, Israel still imposed an air and sea blockade on Gaza despite the fact that Hamas had observed a cease fire for 16 months prior to being elected.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:00 pm to trackfan
Colonial power, 
this liberal has the same stupid thought process as Obama and his father, Colonialist are to blame for everything in the world.
No wonder we have ignorant people being voted in to second terms, these guys have lost their grip on reality and are living in the land of Oz
Take it from someone who was a stupid, ignorant, liberal who loved democrats in the 70's, EDUCATE YOURSELF.
this liberal has the same stupid thought process as Obama and his father, Colonialist are to blame for everything in the world. No wonder we have ignorant people being voted in to second terms, these guys have lost their grip on reality and are living in the land of Oz
Take it from someone who was a stupid, ignorant, liberal who loved democrats in the 70's, EDUCATE YOURSELF.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:20 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
You sound like a neanderthal from a couple of centuries ago who actually believes colonialism is a good and humane thing.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:22 pm to trackfan
Dude you are the IB Freeman of Hamas loving.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:24 pm to trackfan
humane? for sure not
good? debateable. rome's colonies did a lot to develop the western world, which basically was the foundation to all the advances we have in modern society. that's a "safe" example, but there are other "success" stories (especially where colonies, after independence, kept the values of the colonizing culture)
good? debateable. rome's colonies did a lot to develop the western world, which basically was the foundation to all the advances we have in modern society. that's a "safe" example, but there are other "success" stories (especially where colonies, after independence, kept the values of the colonizing culture)
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:31 pm to trackfan
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574 mortar shells and 286 Qassam rockets were fired at Israel in 2005. These caused 6 deaths and 68 were injured.
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1,247 rockets and 28 mortars were fired at Israel in 2006.
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Hamas had observed a ceasefire.
Um.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
Anyone who does not think Hamas uses its civilians as shields in a complete moron.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:39 pm to Bard
But trackfan, ghazi, and the like said that Israel just loves killing innocent women and children and it wasn't Hamas' fault at all.i don't know who to believe anymore.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:43 pm to trackfan
quote:You are correct. In my haste I focused on the administrative arm of government rather than the elected. Hamas did not exercise administrative control, especially the police, over the West Bank following the 2006 election.
The Palestinian elections in 2006 were for both Gaza and the West Bank, not just Gaza, and Hamas won the whole thing.
quote:Did Israel have the legal right to control access to Gaza by air and sea under the Oslo Accords? Weren't the Israelis allowed to control the air and sea around Gaza until a permanent agreement was reached?
After Israel pulled out of Gaza, Israel still imposed an air and sea blockade on Gaza despite the fact that Hamas had observed a cease fire for 16 months prior to being elected.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:49 pm to trackfan
quote:
You sound like a neanderthal from a couple of centuries ago who actually believes colonialism is a good and humane thing.
Sign me as one who thinks colonialism was a good thing. Certainly not always humane but on balance definitely a betterment for the world including the colonized population.
There is a strong corollary between the advancement of a society and how long they were colonized.
Africa as a continent is so messed up in a large part because the French and British left. The lives of sub suharan Africans would be better off today if they were still colonies.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:50 pm to Bard
quote:
The Israeli military said it has captured a Hamas manual on urban warfare — called “Introduction to the City War” — that extols the benefits of civilian deaths and openly admits that Israel tries to avoid them.
There is no way they could have faked that!
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:58 pm to lsu480
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There is no way they could have faked that!
Yes because the tactics in the manual are so unlike Hamas!!
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:59 pm to lsu480
Call me when Hamas renounces their covenant that wants all Jews driven into the sea. Hell they can't even say the word Israel.
Abbas and his fellow ruling elites in the Arab world have been quiet because they hate Hamas also.
Abbas and his fellow ruling elites in the Arab world have been quiet because they hate Hamas also.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:05 pm to the808bass
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the808bass
No facts please. It cause him to do this:
Then Ghazi has to:
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:11 pm to jamboybarry
You and Ace Midnight are good posters but for the love of Judaism please stop posting the following.
"Hama-holes" or Hamasholes
To Ace:
Israel protects their citizens with rockets, Hamas protects their rockets with citizens
We get it.
"Hama-holes" or Hamasholes
To Ace:
Israel protects their citizens with rockets, Hamas protects their rockets with citizens
We get it.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:14 pm to Bard
I find it interesting that the assault rifle on the cover appears to be an M-16.
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