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Posted on 7/31/14 at 9:41 am to Antonio Moss
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Because they don't make a lot of sense.
What should the law be regarding cocaine? Should it be available unrestricted for recreational use? What about hydrocodone? Oxycontin? What about crack or heroin? There needs to be a less intrusive approach that respects individual rights, but there could be some heavy costs by taking that road. Maybe not as high as the current costs, but who knows?
Posted on 7/31/14 at 9:41 am to Topwater Trout
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I can see teenagers now...psst psst hey man will you buy me some heroin
Read up on Portugal's drug policies.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 9:41 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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I cannot argue with that, but I can believe that it is a little better without people like the one mentioned in the OP
A lot of fricking assholes in this thread who think they know something about suicide.
Suicide is not Darwinism in action. Suicide is a symptom of an individual's inability to cope with pain. It is a failure of the medical system, the individuals' support network, and our own culture (for stigmatizing mental health issues to the point where people are ashamed to seek help). And as for the last point -- it is attitudes like the one expressed above that perpetuates the culture of shame surrounding mental health.
So get a clue and shut the frick up. You have no idea what you're talking about.
This post was edited on 7/31/14 at 9:44 am
Posted on 7/31/14 at 9:41 am to Antonio Moss
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Where does it say he was an addict?
Even if he was an addict, is allowing the government to incarcerate him the best method for mitigating the consequences of his addiction?
Who is served by imprisoning drug addicts?
Addicts will always be in existence. How we handle it is the most pressing issue.
Have yourself an upvote, guy.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 9:42 am to Antonio Moss
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Read up on Portugal's drug policies.
Thanks, I will.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 9:42 am to NIH
FWIW every single drug is legal in Portugal.
Check the statistics on violent crime, suicides, addictions, etc.
They are all down. Why? Because the genetic psychology of the weakest individuals was allowed to do what it was designed to do, kill them off. Now, the populace has ridden themselves of the infection and is thriving.
Check the statistics on violent crime, suicides, addictions, etc.
They are all down. Why? Because the genetic psychology of the weakest individuals was allowed to do what it was designed to do, kill them off. Now, the populace has ridden themselves of the infection and is thriving.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 9:43 am to crimsonsaint
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Cocaine has been illegal since 1914. But blame her if you like.
War on drugs was her big cause for eight years. While she was banging the president we got mandatory minimum sentences and a whole new propaganda campaign of misinformation on drugs. It did provide this though:
Pure awesome
So that's pretty cool.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 9:43 am to Antonio Moss
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Where does it say he was an addict?
Well the OP says he does massive amounts of coke and buys it in fricking bulk. Maybe he's not an addict. Maybe he's just really frugal and likes a good deal. But common sense tells us that he's more than likely an addict.
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Even if he was an addict, is allowing the government to incarcerate him the best method for mitigating the consequences of his addiction?
Who is served by imprisoning drug addicts?
Addicts will always be in existence. How we handle it is the most pressing issue.
Why the frick are you arguing this bullshite with me? Did you not read the next fricking sentence where I said we should end the WOD?
Posted on 7/31/14 at 9:43 am to Clockwatcher68
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There needs to be a less intrusive approach that respects individual rights, but there could be some heavy costs by taking that road. Maybe not as high as the current costs, but who knows?
I don't have the perfect answer but I do know that imprisonment makes zero sense if the goal is to lessen addiction rates and actual crime.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 9:43 am to Antonio Moss
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Who is served by imprisoning drug addicts?
The people who are stolen from and murdered to support their habits?
Posted on 7/31/14 at 9:43 am to HeadBusta4LSU
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Cowards way out
Know that was a friend and all, but this is correct. Man up to what you done and take responsibility. There is NEVER a good enough reason to take your own life!!!
Posted on 7/31/14 at 9:43 am to Geaux9
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So even though a law is unjust,
to some people maybe
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you are against people who don't obey it?
they can do what they want...just don't cry when you get caught
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Can you boot kickers give me your philosophy on why it's so damn important to bow down to authority?
i thought we were boot lickers? boot kickers is better
Posted on 7/31/14 at 9:44 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
yep.
it's not like rehabilitation occurs in our prisons anyway.
it's not like rehabilitation occurs in our prisons anyway.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 9:45 am to TxTiger82
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A lot of fricking a-holes in this thread who think they know something about suicide.
Suicide is not Darwinism in action. Suicide is a symptom of an individual's inability to cope with pain. It is a failure of the medical system, the individuals' support network, and our own culture (for stigmatizing mental health issues to the point where people are ashamed to seek help). And as for the last point -- it is attitudes like the one expressed above that perpetuates the culture of shame surrounding mental health.
So get a clue and shut the frick up. You have no idea what you're talking abou
I was on anti-depressants/anxiety meds and in therapy for 2 years. I never once thought about killing myself.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 9:45 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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They are all down. Why? Because the genetic psychology of the weakest individuals was allowed to do what it was designed to do, kill them off. Now, the populace has ridden themselves of the infection and is thriving.
Dude take your fricking 19th century pseudo-science bullshite and leave and don't let the door hit you on the way out.
This post was edited on 7/31/14 at 9:46 am
Posted on 7/31/14 at 9:46 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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The people who are stolen from and murdered to support their habits?
I don't think anyone is advocating the legalization of theft or murder.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 9:46 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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I never once thought about killing myself.
So you have no personal experience with suicidal tendencies. But you seem to know so much about it. How did that happen? Where did you learn enough to become so judgmental?
Posted on 7/31/14 at 9:46 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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I was on anti-depressants/anxiety meds and in therapy for 2 years.
Then according to the OT you are a pussy and should not breed.
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I never once thought about killing myself.
Have a cookie.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 9:46 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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They are all down. Why? Because the genetic psychology of the weakest individuals was allowed to do what it was designed to do, kill them off. Now, the populace has ridden themselves of the infection and is thriving.
No, all those statistics are down because there is no longer a major black market for drug purchase. The policies have only been in existence for a few years, not nearly enough time to "breed out" genetic predisposition to addiction.
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