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Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:17 pm to meaux5
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meaux5
I'm with him.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:23 pm to PerceivedReality
At one time, back in my day, if you didn't want health insurance you paid a $0 fine and $0 per month in premiums.
I rode this out until I was 26.
When do we see the $2500 per year savings in premiums per family? I see the govt got their take up front.
I rode this out until I was 26.
When do we see the $2500 per year savings in premiums per family? I see the govt got their take up front.
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:24 pm to FightinTigersDammit
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loopholes
Do tell?
No as my grandpa used say, don't talk about your pussy and your money.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:32 pm to pistolpete23
Wait, so someone who makes 100k is fined 1k? This headline is misleading.
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:54 pm to wfeliciana
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Yep, but you'll still be without health insurance
You might as well be uninsured as have an exchange plan. A lot of those are junk plans with nobody in network.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:58 pm to inelishaitrust
The bronze plans that obamacare brought to poor people have absolutely jaw-dropping deductibles. What poor sucker has 6 grand lying around ?
Posted on 7/24/14 at 10:01 pm to WeeWee
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No as my grandpa used say, don't talk about your pussy and your money.
Well, you're no damn help.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 10:03 pm to FightinTigersDammit
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Thought this was FREE!!!!
lol, you and a lot of other dumb suckers...
Posted on 7/24/14 at 10:09 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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The bronze plans that obamacare brought to poor people have absolutely jaw-dropping deductibles. What poor sucker has 6 grand lying around ?
Yep. And that'll take forever for poor folks to pay off. Plus if they're running up that much of a medical bill, they're probably missing work for a few weeks or longer, so they don't have the money to keep paying the exorbitant premiums either.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 10:13 pm to Jagd Tiger
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Thought this was FREE!!!!
I never said this....
Posted on 7/24/14 at 10:31 pm to WeeWee
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still cheaper than buying health insurance from the exchange.
So you are happy with paying this money to not have insurance?!
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:18 pm to Revelator
If your deductible is $5000 , you practically don't have insurance anyway.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:58 pm to Turbeauxdog
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If your deductible is $5000 , you practically don't have insurance anyway.
Exactly. These obamacare deductibles are absurd. It makes zero sense to pay premiums on a policy with a 5 or 6 thousand dollar deductible.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 12:00 am
Posted on 7/25/14 at 2:31 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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The money extorted from people who opt out:
How do I opt out of my kid getting sick? Where do I sign up?
A family of 5 will pay $12,240 dollars in penalties - IF their income is $1,224,000+$19,500 (see link below). You make over a million dollars a year and don't buy health insurance for your three children - WTF?
LINK
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 2:33 am
Posted on 7/25/14 at 2:35 am to WeeWee
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still cheaper than buying health insurance from the exchange.
If you ignore the cost of illness and injury - yes.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 2:40 am to Turbeauxdog
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If your deductible is $5000 , you practically don't have insurance anyway.
Come on dude, are you serious?
Do you still have your appendix? I'm guessing you do - otherwise you would already be aware that the average cost of an appendectomy in the U.S. is $33,000. If there are complications that require a hospital stay you're talking double, triple, quadruple that. I know a guy who broke his leg up real bad and needed surgery, he paid 10k for the leg and got a 90k bill for the hospital stay.
You also know, I'm sure - that one of the biggest benefits to having insurance is that your insurer negotiates lower prices. The guy with the 100k bill for a broken leg didn't have insurance - if he had, the total cost would have been 1/3 of that. So when you pay for health insurance you also pay for your deductible amount to go further - the 5k deductible is really like 10-15k in cash to the uninsured because that's the mark-up you'll get if you don't have insurance.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 2:46 am
Posted on 7/25/14 at 5:28 am to SpidermanTUba
The wreckage of this law is just hitting the surface. There will be a few winners but many more losers. It is unsustainable and will fall on its face. I suspect that is really what the administrations wants since that have said universal coverage is the real goal. This was never intended to help.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 5:43 am to SpidermanTUba
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Do you still have your appendix? I'm guessing you do - otherwise you would already be aware that the average cost of an appendectomy in the U.S. is $33,000.
No it isn't. You are off by $20k, a non- trivial amount.
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One of the most common surgical procedures is the appendectomy, which removes an inflamed appendix in order to prevent it from bursting. Although a common procedure, an appendectomy costs on average $13,851 across the United States. On the high end, the procedure can cost as much as $29,426.
Also, please cite the pre-ACA cases where people died because they were refused EMERGENCY medical care such as an appendectomy. They should be easy to find.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 6:37 am to iron banks
Forward!
Right off a damn cliff.
Right off a damn cliff.
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