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Reagan's response to Russia after shooting down Korean 747 (1983)
Posted on 7/17/14 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 7/17/14 at 3:28 pm
If there was ever any doubt, please use this as reference to compare leadership styles of Obama and Reagan under almost identical circumstances.
Reagan's response to Russia shooting down Korean 747 - 1983
"And make no mistake about it: This attack was not just against ourselves or the Republic of Korea. This was the Soviet Union against the world and the moral precepts which guide human relations among people everywhere".
"It was an act of barbarism born of a society which wantonly disregards individual rights and the value of human life and seeks constantly to expand and dominate other nations".
Reagan's response to Russia shooting down Korean 747 - 1983
"And make no mistake about it: This attack was not just against ourselves or the Republic of Korea. This was the Soviet Union against the world and the moral precepts which guide human relations among people everywhere".
"It was an act of barbarism born of a society which wantonly disregards individual rights and the value of human life and seeks constantly to expand and dominate other nations".
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 10:05 pm
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Posted on 7/17/14 at 3:30 pm to tigerpawl
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If there was ever any doubt, please use this as reference to compare leadership styles of Obama and Reagan under almost identical circumstances.
Reagan's response to Russia shooting down Korean 747 - 1983
a) it was the soviet union, not russia
b) we were in conflict with ussr at the time
c) a state did the shooting down, not a insurrection.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 3:32 pm to tigerpawl
This is compeltely different circumstances.
first, russia intentionally and knowingly downed it. Today? no one has a clue who dunnit.
second, we were toe-to-toe with Russia back then. today? Its Ukraine who is toe-to-toe, and we have NO obligation to them.
a little different, dontcha think?
first, russia intentionally and knowingly downed it. Today? no one has a clue who dunnit.
second, we were toe-to-toe with Russia back then. today? Its Ukraine who is toe-to-toe, and we have NO obligation to them.
a little different, dontcha think?
Posted on 7/17/14 at 3:37 pm to tigerpawl
1. The Flight originated in the US. That matters quite a bit.
2. The plane was shadowed, targeted, and taken down by unmistakeable intentional Air-to-air fire.
3. 62 US persons were aboard, incl a Congressman (so 61.5)
4. Intercepts of deliberate soviet action against a perceived surveillance threat were released by our govt in short order.
5. The Soviets intentionally interfered with the salvage effort and investigation because they were sure whatever was recovered would confirm that they had little basis for believing the flight was a spy job.
We did place some additional equipment in Europe, though.
2. The plane was shadowed, targeted, and taken down by unmistakeable intentional Air-to-air fire.
3. 62 US persons were aboard, incl a Congressman (so 61.5)
4. Intercepts of deliberate soviet action against a perceived surveillance threat were released by our govt in short order.
5. The Soviets intentionally interfered with the salvage effort and investigation because they were sure whatever was recovered would confirm that they had little basis for believing the flight was a spy job.
We did place some additional equipment in Europe, though.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 3:37 pm to tigerpawl
That's some forceful language!
Damn...I miss that man.
Damn...I miss that man.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 3:44 pm to tigerpawl
quote:Was that his TV speech 4 days later? Should we check in next week to compare to Obama's style or should we just use whatever quick response he just gave?
If there was ever any doubt, please use this as reference to compare leadership styles of Obama and Reagan under almost identical circumstances.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 3:45 pm to tigerpawl
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Posted on 7/17/14 at 3:45 pm to tigerpawl
So what did Reagan do besides jawbone on TV and bluster for a few weeks? Diddly squat.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 3:47 pm to tigerpawl
So what did Reagan do? I really don't remember.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 3:49 pm to tigerpawl
One of Reagan's action after the Russians shot down that airliner was to allow world wide access to the military's GNSS system. Today we call it GPS.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 3:55 pm to tigerpawl
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Reagan's response to Russia after shooting down Korean 747 (1983)
If there was ever any doubt, please use this as reference to compare leadership styles of Obama and Reagan under almost identical circumstances.
Reagan's response to Russia shooting down Korean 747 - 1983
Boy righties are giddy as hell over this.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 3:55 pm to tigerpawl
What was Reagan's response to us shooting down an Iranian jetliner in 1988?
We hardly have moral high ground here.
We hardly have moral high ground here.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 4:33 pm to tigerpawl
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If there was ever any doubt, please use this as reference to compare leadership styles of Obama and Reagan
It's humorous.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 4:36 pm to tigerpawl
quote:So, you suggesting we should start bombing the shite out of 1. Ukraine. 2. The rebels or 3. The Russians - war is a motherfricker. Don't need to start one over an civil war in the former Soviet Union - Israel is taking up the slack for starting shite.
If there was ever any doubt, please use this as reference to compare leadership styles of Obama and Reagan under almost identical circumstances.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 4:46 pm to tigerpawl
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leadership styles of Obama and Reagan
They don't make em like they used to...
Posted on 7/17/14 at 4:49 pm to tigerpawl
Entirely different scenario.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 5:05 pm to tigerpawl
quote:In fairness, the relationship between the US-USSR was substantially different prior to the end of the Cold War. That said, the relationship between the POTUS and the US was substantially different under Reagan too. Reagan and Obama are antitheses.
Reagan's response to Russia after shooting down Korean 747 (1983)
Posted on 7/17/14 at 5:36 pm to tigerpawl
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The story in Beirut wasn’t over. In September of 1984, for the third time in eighteen months, jihadists bombed a U.S. government outpost in Beirut yet again. President Reagan acknowledged that the new security precautions that had been advocated by Congress hadn’t yet been implemented at the U.S. embassy annex that had been hit. The problem, the President admitted, was that the repairs hadn’t quite been completed on time. As he put it, “Anyone who’s ever had their kitchen done over knows that it never gets done as soon as you wish it would.” Imagine how Congressman Issa and Fox News would react to a similar explanation from President Obama today.
LINK
Posted on 7/17/14 at 6:24 pm to tigerpawl
These situations aren't close to comparable.
Obama has nothing today with the Malaysian plane or the Middle East that warrants criticism.
Obama has nothing today with the Malaysian plane or the Middle East that warrants criticism.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 6:24 pm to tigerpawl
Reagan had moral courage and indignace over wrongs. Obama is a politician in a suit. That is all.
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 6:25 pm
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