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re: Udonis Haslem opts out

Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:04 am to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:04 am to
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Total: $48m 

They'd have roughly $15m in cap space. 
its about the timing though.

The Big 3, for example, they don't count towards the cap at the moment(assuming Wade the other 2 opt out) So the Heat can technically sign a couple of big money deals. Then they could sign the big 3 and go over the $63mil cap figure due to bird rights. But obviously, they won't go too far with that due to the tax penalties.

My main point is they can go over that soft cap amount as long as they sign other guys first.
Posted by BigBrian774
Mississippi
Member since Jan 2013
591 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:04 am to
Lowery is who they are supposedly trying to target. My guess is the same Heat as last year minus Chalmers and Battier. Plus Lowery and Napier.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:06 am to
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The Big 3, for example, they don't count towards the cap at the moment(assuming Wade the other 2 opt out) So the Heat can technically sign a couple of big money deals. Then they could sign the big 3 and go over the $63mil cap figure due to bird rights. But obviously, they won't go too far with that due to the tax penalties.


No they can't. The cap hold is still there even after the Big Three opt out until they sign a new deal either with Miami or someone else.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111123 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:08 am to
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No they can't. The cap hold is still there even after the Big Three opt out until they sign a new deal either with Miami or someone else
Really? Thanks for the clarification.

So then, how does a team go over the cap figure?

For example, I read a lot about how Houston could first sign lebron or Melo then go over the cap to resign Parsons, but only after they sign the other guy first.
This post was edited on 6/28/14 at 11:10 am
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:15 am to
Haslem's a Heat lifer.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:27 am to
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For example, I read a lot about how Houston could first sign lebron or Melo then go over the cap to resign Parsons, but only after they sign the other guy first.


I'm not 100% certain on the details, but the rules with Team Options may be different than with Player Options.

Could also have something to do with the hard cap.
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:29 am to
I think people are going to be surprised what lebron signs for, all these estimates seem high to me. Also I wouldn't even be surprised if Haslem was promised to be brought into the front office or coaching staff if he took less now, it's been said he is a strong leader on the team.

Edited for iPhone autocorrect
This post was edited on 6/28/14 at 11:36 am
Posted by Mohamed Ali
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:30 am to


The godfather
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:32 am to
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I think people are going to be surprised what lebron signs for, all these estimates seem high to me. Also I wouldn't even be surprised if Harlem was promised to be brought into the front office or coaching staff if he took less now, it's been said he is a strong leader on the team.


Maybe. I think Wade gets something like 12, Bosh 14, and LeBron 16. I believe LeBron would gladly take less, but it's also hard to see at the same time.

If all three took some shite like $10m then that's some noble shite.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111123 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:34 am to
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Also I wouldn't even be surprised if Harlem was promised to be brought into the front office or coaching staff
lebatard says it's basically understood that he'll work in the front office once he retires.
Posted by Mohamed Ali
Member since May 2014
1053 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:36 am to
I think the Heat needed this beat down in the finals (short term loss - long term gain). Had they won, none of these guys would be opting out and presumably taking team friendly deals.

They probably should've done this after last year's championship in hindsight.
This post was edited on 6/28/14 at 11:36 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111123 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:38 am to
quote:

They probably should've done this after last year's championship in hindsight.

they didn't have an opt out clause after last season.
Posted by Mohamed Ali
Member since May 2014
1053 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:40 am to
Fair enough. The roster still should've been retooled in some manner.
Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
29313 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:40 am to
Anybody that thought at any point that Lebron, Wade, and Bosh wouldn't play for the Heat next year are maroons.
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:43 am to
quote:

Anybody that thought at any point that Lebron, Wade, and Bosh wouldn't play for the Heat next year are maroons.


Posted by oleyeller
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:43 am to
quote:

Anybody that thought at any point that Lebron, Wade, and Bosh wouldn't play for the Heat next year are maroons.


roll tide
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:57 am to
quote:

Also I wouldn't even be surprised if Haslem was promised to be brought into the front office or coaching staff if he took less now, it's been said he is a strong leader on the team.


Yeah, I always assumed he'd go straight to the Heat front office once he retires, just like Zo.
Posted by Hook Em Horns
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:01 pm to
Im going to always glance over my words, when calling somebody an idiot.
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17107 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

Udonis Haslem opts out


DECISION 3.0
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22817 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:13 pm to
They should go sign Gortat if they will have all this space.
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