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re: Udonis Haslem opts out

Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by Mohamed Ali
Member since May 2014
1053 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:14 pm to
Lowry
Wade
Bron
Bosh
Gortat
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:19 pm to
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So then, how does a team go over the cap figure?


Bird rights allow a team to go over the cap to resign a player.

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For example, I read a lot about how Houston could first sign lebron or Melo then go over the cap to resign Parsons, but only after they sign the other guy first.


As mentioned earlier, cap holds usually prevent teams from doing this. Guys like Lebron or Melo have extremely high cap holds. I think it's like 105% of last years salary for max guys. But the cap hold for guys like Parsons who were on a rookie contract is extremely low. It's 190% of what he made last year. So in Parsons' case it would only be around $2m. When/if he signs an offer sheet his cap hold will go up to whatever he is set to make in the 1st year of his new deal.

ETA: I was kind of wrong. Parsons' cap hold is the higher of 190% of what he made last year, the 1st year of the offer sheet he signs or the qualifying offer Houston extends to him so that he becomes a restricted free agent. He meets some special criteria so his qualifying offer would be around $3m. Still relatively low though.

This post was edited on 6/28/14 at 12:25 pm
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:26 pm to
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For example, I read a lot about how Houston could first sign lebron or Melo then go over the cap to resign Parsons, but only after they sign the other guy first.



Parsons' cap hold is based on his current salary, so it's not that high. so if I'm understanding their strategy, the Rockets can sign a big name FA (or trade for someone like Love), then give Parsons his big extension; or have to match an offer sheet for Parsons, then move Lin (if they haven't already) to create more space, and still get the FA/ trade.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:50 pm to
Can the Rockets even acquire Love? Lin and picks certainly won't do it, nor will the Wolves take Lin unless Love straight makes them trade him and that's the best offer. I could see a S&T by adding Parsons to that.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:51 pm to
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They should go sign Gortat if they will have all this space.


They need that sort of presence. Bosh needs to be playing the 4.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52464 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 12:58 pm to
Basically, Miami is gonna spend the entire offseason figuring out how to beat San Antonio in next year's NBA Finals.
Posted by Dr. Shultz
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jun 2013
6391 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 1:09 pm to
They really just need to beef up the bench to be honest. All of their guys who were hitting 3's last year got older and sucked besides Allen or left.

Shane Battier, Mario Chalmers, and Mike Miller were fricking HUGE in last years finals.

This year.. Mario sucked dick and is most likely gone

Shane is retiring

Mike Miller is on the Grizz.

Lewis brought a little to the table but it wasn't enough.
This post was edited on 6/28/14 at 1:10 pm
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 1:29 pm to
Seems like it's about time Wade developed a 3 point shot.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111300 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

As mentioned earlier, cap holds usually prevent teams from doing this. Guys like Lebron or Melo have extremely high cap holds. I think it's like 105% of last years salary for max guys. But the cap hold for guys like Parsons who were on a rookie contract is extremely low. It's 190% of what he made last year. So in Parsons' case it would only be around $2m. When/if he signs an offer sheet his cap hold will go up to whatever he is set to make in the 1st year of his new deal. 

ETA: I was kind of wrong. Parsons' cap hold is the higher of 190% of what he made last year, the 1st year of the offer sheet he signs or the qualifying offer Houston extends to him so that he becomes a restricted free agent. He meets some special criteria so his qualifying offer would be around $3m. Still relatively low though. 
thanks, great breakdown.
Posted by tigerblood29
Member since Sep 2009
3062 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 2:27 pm to
The wheels are falling off the bandwagon
Time to become a "lifelong" fan of another team for most of them
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125563 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 2:39 pm to
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rumors


Wade would be dumb to opt out
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125563 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 2:40 pm to
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Wade: I think he signs something like a 5yr/$60m deal, so that's $12m a year.


da fuq

hes about to make 40+ the next two years
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29350 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:36 pm to
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Im going to always glance over my words, when calling somebody an idiot.



So I thought it was widely known that the term maroon was an acceptable way to say idiot, dumbass, moron, etc in a nice-ish way.......i guess I'll spell it out for you dummies in the future.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30526 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 7:30 pm to
None of them ever watched Bugs Bunny as a kid, I guess.



What a maroon
Posted by trom83
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2013
4724 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 10:20 pm to
Thread starts out about Udonis Haslem.......becomes a thread about Lebron/Bosh/Wade
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111300 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:02 pm to
quote:

Wade would be dumb to opt out
not really.

If he signs for 4/60,he guarantees himself more money. There no guarantee he can recoup that extra $18 mil if he were to opt in to the final 2 years, trying to get another deal at 34.
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