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re: Probably Germans...but McElroy says Saban responsible for LSU Success

Posted on 6/27/14 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by TigerTreyjpg
Monroe, LA
Member since Jun 2008
5815 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 1:51 pm to
Nick Saban was responsible for LSU's success when he was the coach at LSU.

Les Miles is responsible for it since he's been the coach.

Both have been wildly successful.

Posted by DontCare
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2012
2516 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 2:11 pm to
has any coach who had two good seasons out of five ever been given so much credit for a fourteen year span of consistent achievement? the answer is no. so, forgive all of us who aren't going to take every possible opportunity to kiss saban's arse for pedantic comments that attribute our success to him.

btw: urban meyer won with charlie strong's and ron zook's players.
Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
Member since Mar 2004
65869 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 2:39 pm to
Eh, big deal.


Is Saban not responsible for the Gump's success?


Posted by catnip
Member since Sep 2003
16345 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 2:39 pm to
Just like Sabans success is because of Shula.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12576 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 2:48 pm to
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 3:08 pm to
who gives a shite what that spoiled little rich kid thinks, pretty sure a mediocre, washed up, backup qb wouldn't have his job if his dad wasn't the highest ranking Cowboy exec not named Jones
This post was edited on 6/27/14 at 3:10 pm
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
15612 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 3:29 pm to
It's a moronic statement from a loudmouth gump homer. Once again designed to get clicks and attention.
Posted by Walter White
Judice Inn Booth 1
Member since Sep 2012
3111 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 3:30 pm to
Probably Germans...but Walter White says Saban responsible for McElroy's "success"
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31961 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 3:39 pm to
honestly, he's not really off base.

without Saban, the allure of coming to LSU would not have been established ahead of Miles. Simply from a talent reaping stand point.

That said, Miles deserves every ounce of credit for his record.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
40211 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:27 pm to
I can answer this for you guys. It isn'y Saban, and it isn't Miles; it's the decision makers who decided LSU football would be great and chose to deploy our capital on first class coaches and first class facilities. Long after Saban and Miles are gone from this life greatness will belong to those of spirit who reach for it, just as it always has. Saban and Miles are hired guns; we can always hire others. Greatness, for LSU football will always rise and fall on the expectations, committment, and audacity of its regents and the people whom they serve.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45336 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 5:18 pm to
The comments below that article by someone called "devils advocate" are interesting. Not sure if he is the same guy that goes by that name on here but either way he is a stupid motherfricker. He states that Miles won a championship in 2007 with Saban's players and has won zero with his players. But at the sametime he gives Saban credit as having won the 2009 title with his recruits. Really? This dude believes this? Both won titles in the 3rd year with their team. So how does Saban get credit for recruits that were signed while he was coaching the dolphins? He must be one of the creators of Obamacare with thinking like that.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89790 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 5:36 pm to
quote:

McElroy


can eat a big old bag of dicks, for all I care.
Posted by Farkwad
Byzantium
Member since Sep 2010
2669 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 7:07 pm to
Little Nicky is responsible. He built the program back up and brought back the LA talent. Mike Archer left the local talent alone in the 80's and went for the big out of staters while those out of state programs plucked LA boys left and right. Add to that the disaster that was Curly Hallman and the quick decline of Dinardo and Saban WAS responsible for the success of the LSU program and Leslie has ridden that wave quite well. Leslie continued to keep the players in state and hired the best Offensive and Defensive minds possible. He is a good CEO coach, as Spurrier said, but I doubt his ability to actually coach X's and O's as evidenced by the amateurish clock problems and his inability to speak English.
This post was edited on 6/27/14 at 7:21 pm
Posted by PEABODY32
Everywhere
Member since Feb 2011
1184 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 10:15 pm to
Quote :LSU is responsible for Saban's success every bit as much as Saban is responsible for LSU's. Saban would not be where he is today if he was puddling around in East lansing for another 5 years. LSu gave him the opportunity and all the resources in the world to establish himself, including a roster with a plethora of talent he inherited from Dinardo. I always found it odd that Saban gets 100% of the credit for the players he coached that were signed and recruited by Dinardo but Les seemed to get 0% of the players signed by Saban but coached by him. The hypocrisy of it all is astounding. And still, 10 years later, we have slapdicks saying LSU's success rests squarely on the shoulders of Nick Saban. Give me a fricking break. How well did that work out for Ron Zook at Florida, Will Muschamp at Florida, Larry Coker at Miami, Frank Solich at Nebraska, Bob Davie at Notre Dame, and so on and so forth. Yes, Nick Saban is a great coach, probably the best in the country and one of the best of all time, but to continue to act like LSU is what it is because of him, 10 years later, is such a joke. People seem to think Saban was as good as he is now when he was at LSU. He wasn't. Let us all be reminded that he had exactly one season at LSU where he lost fewer than 3 games.


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Posted by OilMan25
Youngsville, LA
Member since Nov 2013
358 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 7:48 am to
quote:

An argument could be made that Dinardo is responsible for LSU's success



This is true...It was that senior class that actually won the title in 2003. Saban was brought here with a .500 win % from Mich St and all of a sudden he's the best coach on the planet(so say) I look at Saban a lot like I look at Obama. If the media doesn't build these guys up so much does Obama ever win the presidency? And Saban brings a lot of top recruits because of this media hype also. Lets not forget Saban lost here to UAB and at Bama to UL Monroe. Not to mention to Sugar Bowl spankings at the hands of Okie and Utah lol. Also he couldn't break .500 in the NFL. I believe Saban pass through LSU at a time when our in state talent was the best anywhere and our success has as much to do with those guys than it does with Saban
Posted by broadcaster
Maurepas
Member since Sep 2013
2685 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 3:02 pm to
Yes Nick Saban is the reason for starting the success at LSU, but in no way shape or form is he the reason for our continued success! For you people who are still on Saban's nuts, yes he did win us our 1st NC since the 50's but other than that he didn't have any better seasons than coach Miles. I think some were kinda worse coach Miles has never loss to UAB or a team like that. Just because Saban won NC's at Bama doesn't mean he would've here! Coach Miles is da man their is no one I would trade him for!
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36757 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:16 pm to
fricks I give: 0
This post was edited on 6/28/14 at 5:16 pm
Posted by cheapseat
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2004
6288 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:42 pm to
Gaynell Tinsley responible for LSU s current success.Dietzel inhereted his talent.
Posted by floridatiger2
Member since Sep 2006
576 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 10:31 pm to
who's mcelroy and who cares.........watch the games with the sound off, and don't watch espn and all the other pronosticators !!!

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