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Posted on 6/24/14 at 4:00 pm to
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 4:00 pm to
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Yeah, at the very least I'd expect Demps to turn Pierre Jackson into a 2nd and draft a SF or Patric Young.


That's the most I'm expecting.

We really need to move Gordon. I just don't see that getting done in connection with the draft.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 4:05 pm to
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the troll Jimmy Smith is becoming.


He's at it again

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How many times can that be said? Not often enough this week as the New Orleans Pelicans are preparing for Thursday night's NBA draft currently in possession of no picks.

The team's decision last June to trade away a pair of No. 1 draft choices in return for point guard Jrue Holiday has obviously created increasing fluidity in the Pelicans' draft-day plans and fired up the rumor mill that the team is aggressively attempting to trade back into this draft, perceived to be among the deepest in many years.

If that's the case, it could indicate several things: one, the team realizes that protecting this year's No. 1 that went to the Philadelphia 76ers only through the top five was unwise; two, it has identified a difference-making player they feel would enhance the chances of becoming playoff-relevant this season; or three, this could be a trade to acquire pieces to be part of another transaction.

If it happens, though, it merely reinforces the belief that the team paid too high a price a year ago to acquire Holiday.

But we already knew that.





He mad about not keeping noel
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49541 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 4:09 pm to
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He mad about not keeping noel



Dominated last season, and many expect the 76ers to be good this year because of him.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61680 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 4:19 pm to
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Jonathan Givony @DraftExpress · 2m

Rumored Sacramento-Detroit trade is "dead" according to a team source. Talks were ongoing for a few days, but Detroit nixed it this morning.

Michael McNamara @McNamara247 · 28s

DETROIT said no to a deal involving Josh Smith heading out?? I will ask this again: What planet am I on??
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
76809 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 4:20 pm to
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Michael McNamara @McNamara247 · 28s

DETROIT said no to a deal involving Josh Smith heading out?? I will ask this again: What planet am I on??


Planet Ryno-for-Monroe!
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49541 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 4:22 pm to
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Planet Ryno-for-Monroe!



Meh.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116966 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 4:23 pm to
Have to agree with McNamara there. What the frick Detroit. What the frick.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24849 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 4:23 pm to
I don't want to move Ryno unless it means Sandy is going too.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61680 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 4:26 pm to
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Have to agree with McNamara there. What the frick Detroit. What the frick


If it's true then either they are trying to get a better price, maybe Sacramento was demanding a future 1st, or maybe they found value for Monroe rather than just dumping Smith. Monroe and Drummond is a questionable long term match because neither plays outside of the paint.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 4:27 pm to
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DETROIT said no to a deal involving Josh Smith heading out?? I will ask this again: What planet am I on??


Well it's a terrible deal for Detroit.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116966 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 4:29 pm to
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Well it's a terrible deal for Detroit.



Josh Smith leaves.

Unless they are taking back a literal corpse making 50 million dollars for 3-5 years it would be hard to be a "TERRIBLE" deal for them.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
156293 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 4:37 pm to
i love me some lavoy allen

Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32965 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 4:47 pm to
What about dumping the non guaranteed contracts of Ely and Withey to get Asik, then turning Ryno into Barnes, Speights, and Ezeli. Also, resign Morrow.

Not sure if the Rockets would expect to get more back for Asik, or if GSW would agree to that deal, but I think those moves would be pretty good for the Pelicans.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96911 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 4:53 pm to
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What about dumping the non guaranteed contracts of Ely and Withey to get Asik, then turning Ryno into Barnes, Speights, and Ezeli. Also, resign Morrow.

Not sure if the Rockets would expect to get more back for Asik, or if GSW would agree to that deal, but I think those moves would be pretty good for the Pelicans.


I could go for non-guaranteed deals like Ely for Asik if we think Asik's the right fit next to Davis.


I'm less interested in the Anderson for Barnes, Speights, and Ezeli deal because, even bringing Morrow back, it leaves a giant hole in our offense.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 4:54 pm to
There is no world where Jason Thompson and Jason Terry make Detroit better than Josh Smith short term or long term

Smith is a good player. He's flawed and overpaid, but he's been a good NBA player for a decade. I can easily see a scenario where SVG decides Smith is a better fit with Drummond than Monroe, especially if the trade return for Smith is utter garbage.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61680 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 4:55 pm to
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What about dumping the non guaranteed contracts of Ely and Withey to get Asik


Not a legal trade. We don't have the cap space to absorb Asik and Houston wouldn't want any more money coming back. We'd really need to dump Gordon 1st.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96911 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 4:59 pm to
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Not a legal trade. We don't have the cap space to absorb Asik and Houston wouldn't want any more money coming back. We'd really need to dump Gordon 1st.


Asik's cap value is roughly $8.4m, not the $14.9m he's actually being paid this year.

Considering what the cap got raised to, I think we could legally trade non-guaranteed contracts like Ely for Asik because we'd have enough cap space to make it work.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61680 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 5:00 pm to
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Bill Simmons @BillSimmons about 9 minutes ago

According to @Chad Ford - the Cavs got offered 4, 12 + Afflalo for 1 and didn't immediately say "Yes please?" That happened????

Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61680 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 5:04 pm to
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Asik's cap value is roughly $8.4m, not the $14.9m he's actually being paid this year.


I was stuck thinking with this year's cap numbers, but you're right, there's no reason this wouldn't be an after draft trade.
This post was edited on 6/24/14 at 5:05 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96911 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 5:15 pm to
No way the Cavs were offered that deal and didn't take it immediately.

They're floating bullshite offers out there to see if someone will actually bite.


I'd heard #3 and Thad Young as well as #5 and Favors as well as the Orlando deal. Orlando's deal is best by far if they really like Embiid.
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