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Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:55 am to Sentrius
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You are a great human being and a great American.
Does the American part offend you btw?
Not at all. I am not my government.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:56 am to fightin tigers
Yeah I mean look at how the big alcohol kingpins control everything now through brutality and Super Bowl ads.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:56 am to fightin tigers
quote:Yes it is.
Not that far.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:56 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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drugs are products that enslave people, turn them into violent, unstable scarecrows, and kills them.
One could argue that alcohol does this. Do you think alcohol should be made illegal?
Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:56 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Hemphead, my anarchist fringe friend who lives in the North Carolina boondocks, I take it you have never known someone who was destroyed by drug use.
Tell me, what has our drug war done to limit the supply of illicit narcotics?
Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:57 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Hemphead, my anarchist fringe friend who lives in the North Carolina boondocks, I take it you have never known someone who was destroyed by drug use.
I've known more than a few.
But that doesn't mean that I think that the appropriate solution is to imprison those caught with or distributing illicit substances.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:57 am to HempHead
Rrohibition always turns out well. The one thing you can depend on our government doing is repeating its own mistakes over and over. decriminalization of drugs would drive the crime rate so low, so fast that the prisons would have to shutter up and LEO's get laid off, we can't have that shite can we.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:58 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Its simple to at least separate marihuana from the hard drugs. I'm on the fence about legalizing hard drugs bc I do see what they do to people. The WoD is crap but legalizing them could be even worse.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 1:58 am to THRILLHO
quote:I wouldn't support prohibition on a national level, but it would probably have my support on a local or state level.
Do you think alcohol should be made illegal?
Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:00 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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I wouldn't support prohibition on a national level, but it would probably have my support on a local or state level.
My home county was dry until 2006.
Do you think this had any effect on alcohol consumption or DUIs?
Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:00 am to biglego
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Its simple to at least separate marihuana from the hard drugs. I'm on the fence about legalizing hard drugs bc I do see what they do to people. The WoD is crap but legalizing them could be even worse.
I don't think intelligent people are advocating wholesale narcotic legalization, they are advocating wholesale decriminalization.
If we can spend the money making people entirely unemployable, truly enslaving them in a prison for personal use, we can certainly spend it cleaning their asses up and making employable.
This post was edited on 6/6/14 at 2:02 am
Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:01 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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I wouldn't support prohibition on a national level, but it would probably have my support on a local or state level.
Why is a stupid policy ok on a state level?
Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:01 am to biglego
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Yeah I mean look at how the big alcohol kingpins control everything now through brutality and Super Bowl ads.
Ah, I love when potheads argue alcohol is evil and worse than pot. Then want to argue that it is a great example of how illicit substances can easily be controlled.
FWIW, I think the legalization of alcohol is a great reason as why to not legalize pot. We cant control one substance, why compound the problem.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:01 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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I was against it, then I visited Detroit for the first time since I was a child. Ask anyone living on the south side of the eight mile road what destroyed their city. They will tell you narcotics. The sellers of these drugs should be tried for murder for peddling a product that enslaves people, turns them into scarecrows, and ultimately kills them.
They might say that buy they'd be terribly incorrect.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:02 am to The Third Leg
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I don't think intelligent people are advocating wholesale narcotic legalization, they are advocating wholesale decriminalization.
I think this is kind of a meaningless distinction
Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:02 am to biglego
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I think this is kind of a meaningless distinction
Why?
Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:02 am to fightin tigers
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Absolute? Nah. I, would rather the fricked up system we have now over the shite that goes down in countries that let drug lords run them.
So is this the justification? Honestly when I was coming up with that list, at times it was tough to think of pros. No doubt there are pros and perhaps of greater weight than the cons but it's a short list.
Yeah, there's the Detroit post above and it's a valid point but the counter to that is that the WOD has likely made inner cities like Detroit as bad as the drugs themselves. No WOD there's not a black market where the reward to sell is so much greater than the risk for an uneducated kid with zero guidance. The $$ could be spent treating addicts rather than putting them behind bars, where they continue to cost us money, continue to do drugs, and learn to become better criminals so when they do get out they assuredly will not be contributing to society.
So if there's no WOD, then we'd be Colombia? Not giving shite. I'm looking for justifications and pros for it.
This post was edited on 6/6/14 at 2:25 am
Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:03 am to fightin tigers
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FWIW, I think the legalization of alcohol is a great reason as why to not legalize pot. We cant control one substance, why compound the problem.
Perhaps because the prohibition of each (or any substance) is protectionism for cartels and only serves to increase public expedidentures for incarceration and unneeded police-work.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:06 am to fightin tigers
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Ah, I love when potheads argue alcohol is evil and worse than pot. Then want to argue that it is a great example of how illicit substances can easily be controlled. FWIW, I think the legalization of alcohol is a great reason as why to not legalize pot. We cant control one substance, why compound the problem.
I wasnt comparing alcohol to pot, I haven't smoked pot in years, and you don't know what you're talking about.
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