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Players leaving early.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:57 am
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:57 am
Why do players, who, more than likely won't be drafted or certainly aren't early rounders, continue to leave early. Is it money, bad advice, family? They would surely improve their draft stock with an additional year of college play.
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:58 am to 2geaux
Surely is a strong word.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:59 am to 2geaux
I don't think this question has ever been asked before.
We get it. Freak didn't get drafted. There weren't many people out there that didn't think he would get drafted.
The same question was asked 195270985 times when Trai Turner declared. He was a third round draft pick. No one acknowledged that that was the right decision.
We get it. Freak didn't get drafted. There weren't many people out there that didn't think he would get drafted.
The same question was asked 195270985 times when Trai Turner declared. He was a third round draft pick. No one acknowledged that that was the right decision.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:01 am to 2geaux
How many players have we had leave early that didn't get drafted besides Faulk and Freak?
And Freak didn't fit into the category of "likely won't be drafted".
And Freak didn't fit into the category of "likely won't be drafted".
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:04 am to 2geaux
Ah.....what a refreshing topic.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:05 am to 2geaux
Not again! 
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:12 am to 2geaux
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Is it money
yes, yes it is.
and money would make 99.9% of us leave early too.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:12 am to 2geaux
Every year after the draft this thread rears it's ugly head on this board.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:15 am to 2geaux
Gotta understand also, college isn't for everyone. Tons of people leave college early to go get a job. Freak must not have liked the school aspect and thought he could get a job without another year. It happens.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:25 am to 2geaux
They're doing what they think is best for them or their family. They have no obligation to play college ball or to please you.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:54 am to 2geaux
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Why do players, who, more than likely won't be drafted or certainly aren't early rounders, continue to leave early. Is it money, bad advice, family? They would surely improve their draft stock with an additional year of college play.
Not going to look it up but I'm certain someone recently started the exact same thread and used the exact same language as the above. We really needed this again. Thanks
Posted on 5/12/14 at 12:01 pm to 2geaux
They have poor families and cant stop themselves from making children before the age of 21.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 12:01 pm to 2geaux
It's been asked before but....
People leave early because of multiple reason. Whether it can range from leaving so you don't risk injury in college so it doesn't lower your stock, it could be leaving for the money, it could be leaving to get away from school/home, it could even be because a coach/recruiter made a promise to a recruit that he'd play and you're a roadblock to that promise becoming true.
It's rarely bad advice. Some players leave because they have no choice because they need to support their families. So many of these kids come from families that just aren't wealthy or "average" and need the financial stability soon as possible. If you're referring to Freak, he dropped because of the failed drug test, didn't have overwhelming stats and wasn't a beast in the trenches like we thought he would be coming into the season. I admit I at least thought he'd go before Ego, but the drug test may have messed that up for him. He left because he needed the money to get his daughter/family out of the projects and into a better life, and for that, I commend him.
If you're referring towards one of the big four,(Hill, Mett, Odell or Jarvis), maybe it's because they all wanted to shine in the pros and knew the university wouldn't struggle too badly without them, being how loaded the recruiting class was. Maybe it was because they knew without one, it wouldn't be the same. Odell and Jarvis are like brothers and made a promise to each other to be great and make it to the NFL, they worked their asses off and earned it; so you pretty much knew if one was going to leave then so was the other. You can't hate them for leaving, just part of the process. We now have a set of new toys who can be just as good if not better within the next 3 years.
People leave early because of multiple reason. Whether it can range from leaving so you don't risk injury in college so it doesn't lower your stock, it could be leaving for the money, it could be leaving to get away from school/home, it could even be because a coach/recruiter made a promise to a recruit that he'd play and you're a roadblock to that promise becoming true.
It's rarely bad advice. Some players leave because they have no choice because they need to support their families. So many of these kids come from families that just aren't wealthy or "average" and need the financial stability soon as possible. If you're referring to Freak, he dropped because of the failed drug test, didn't have overwhelming stats and wasn't a beast in the trenches like we thought he would be coming into the season. I admit I at least thought he'd go before Ego, but the drug test may have messed that up for him. He left because he needed the money to get his daughter/family out of the projects and into a better life, and for that, I commend him.
If you're referring towards one of the big four,(Hill, Mett, Odell or Jarvis), maybe it's because they all wanted to shine in the pros and knew the university wouldn't struggle too badly without them, being how loaded the recruiting class was. Maybe it was because they knew without one, it wouldn't be the same. Odell and Jarvis are like brothers and made a promise to each other to be great and make it to the NFL, they worked their asses off and earned it; so you pretty much knew if one was going to leave then so was the other. You can't hate them for leaving, just part of the process. We now have a set of new toys who can be just as good if not better within the next 3 years.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 12:22 pm to 2geaux
I'll admit I am selfish.
I care more about wins and losses at LSU than I do a certain players income.
Fact is we will more than likely never win at the level we all want with the mass exodus of experienced players leaving every year.
I hope I get proven wrong.
I care more about wins and losses at LSU than I do a certain players income.
Fact is we will more than likely never win at the level we all want with the mass exodus of experienced players leaving every year.
I hope I get proven wrong.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 12:49 pm to 2geaux
I love what is happening to a few of our more questionable early departures. The system is correcting itself, mostly at the players expense. I think it should be tweaked where only 2nd round prone tions and better are allowed to be an early entry into the NFL. Of course, there would be other exemptions as well...but these guys, in many cases, are just being enticed by agents and end up being training camp dummy holders before being put out with no diploma (in a lot of cases) to fall back on.
I know there are 7th round type gems once in a while, but one could argue they would have been 3rd round steals a year later, with more seasoning and knowledge and strength.
Thers no easy answer, but there are way too many "freak" like decisions that are just wrong, and bad for the player.
I know there are 7th round type gems once in a while, but one could argue they would have been 3rd round steals a year later, with more seasoning and knowledge and strength.
Thers no easy answer, but there are way too many "freak" like decisions that are just wrong, and bad for the player.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:06 pm to 2geaux
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Why do players, who, more than likely won't be drafted or certainly aren't early rounders, continue to leave early. Is it money, bad advice, family? They would surely improve their draft stock with an additional year of college play.
Blame the NFLPA for that. I did not realize it until this year but these rookie contracts with an automatic fifth year option for top rounders actually encourages good players to leave college early and escape the fifth year and reach second contract or FA two years earlier... go figure.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 3:08 pm to 2geaux
The majority of the player that stay, Boyd, Leinhart, etc, that see their stock drop isn't because of their on field performance. It is because of poor performance at the combines and pro day. They appeared to be much better than they were because they were surrounded by so much talent.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 6:18 pm to 2geaux
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:37 pm to 2geaux
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Is it money, bad advice, family?
Education and strong family
Posted on 5/13/14 at 10:37 am to 2geaux
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They would surely improve their draft stock with an additional year of college play.
This is where guys like you consistently go wrong. Anthony Johnson hasn't improved his draft stock since he was in the 11th grade. What makes you think he'd have improved it this year?
Most of the LSU players who left early and went undrafted would have been undrafted a year later. They weren't getting bigger or faster, and they weren't going to show anything on the field that they hadn't already.
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