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Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:39 pm to Rex
quote:We are just now learning that the video inciting the attack was not the best assessment, in fact it wasn't even considered related by those paid to make the assessment, and that the Obama administration withheld this information from Congress when the information was requested by subpoena.
Hell, Rice didn't even definitely blame the video. She said it was the best assessment and that the FBI would give us a more definitive answer following an investigation.
Additionally, members of the Obama administration provided testimony to Congress about the government's response to the attack in Benghazi that is contradicted by the recently released email message. The discrepancies between the instructions issued in the Rhodes email and the accounts provided in testimony to Congress are simply to great to just say, "pass - immaterial."
And then there is the matter of intentionally misleading the public as to what happened and why. You give Democrats a free pass on the matter, but you expect Republicans to be held accountable for the same type offense. You don't even bother to try and hide your hypocrisy.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:39 pm to Jimbeaux
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You are either joking or seriously ill informed. The break in of the Watergate Hotel made no impact on what would have otherwise been and what ended up being a landslide victory for Nixon. What is absurd about Watergate is that CREEP was imbued with the same irrational paranoia that Nixon possessed, which was the ultimate cause of their undoing.
If the tapes and presidential knowledge of the incident coupled with him lying would have been known.. I believe he would lost.. The 76 election was a direct backlash to whole affair.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:39 pm to Hawkeye95
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The nixon administration broke a law,
wrong.
but keep trying, and lean left.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:42 pm to CptBengal
Yall should have told Gerald that, he could have avoided the pardon and won in 76.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:51 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
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He and his comrades lied to the 4 families about their kids being killed because of a video, when they knew it was a terrorist act, ANY POS who lies to our soldiers family about the true cause of their death is a slime POS not worthy of office
Add that to the Fort Hood shooter and his "workplace disturbance".
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:52 pm to Choupique19
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Link? You know, for the direct involvement of Nixon in the Watergate break-in.
Conspiracy for perjury, obstruction of justice and potentially conspiracy to commit a break in. He was never prosecuted for these crimes, and it might have not been proven.
But he was fricking linked to those breakins, at a minimum he was briefed after the fact. Potentially before the fact. And then there is pressing people to lie and withold information.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:54 pm to Hawkeye95
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at a minimum he was briefed after the fact. Potentially before the fact.
keep making things up....without that link.
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And then there is pressing people to lie and withold information.
And Hillary nearly being disbarred from unethical actions...
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:54 pm to Pettifogger
If it were true that the administration knew AQ was attacking the embassy and the annex with a lot of Muamar's leftover military equipment, and didn't send support because it would draw further attention to the situation just before an election, would you consider that a crime?
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:55 pm to Hawkeye95
What exactly did the break in produce? Was it national security or just political?
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:57 pm to son of arlo
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If it were true that the administration knew AQ was attacking the embassy and the annex with a lot of Muamar's leftover military equipment, and didn't send support because it would draw further attention to the situation just before an election, would you consider that a crime?
If we had legit evidence that we didn't initiate a military response for political reasons, resulting in death, then I don't know about a crime, but I'd certainly say the scandal had more legs.
As it is, we have evidence there was a spin operation that didn't get very far off the ground before the administration had to eat it politically. That, to me, isn't much of a cover up allegation, even though it may well have been the Administration's intention to go further in the cover up.
We can draw inferences about everything else, but I just don't think there is enough there to make it compelling.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:58 pm to Hawkeye95
IMO, the crime with Benghazi is that not one soul has been arrested and brought to trial after being told by Obama and Clinton that there would be arrests. Malfeasance of office?
Why is that you reckon?
Why is that you reckon?
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:59 pm to Pettifogger
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If we had legit evidence that we didn't initiate a military response for political reasons, resulting in death, then I don't know about a crime, but I'd certainly say the scandal had more legs.
AFRICOM general testimony...yesterday
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:59 pm to CptBengal
I don't know why anyone would dispute that there was potential criminal prosecution at stake for Nixon's administration. That is simply undeniable. We don't know how good the case would have been, but we do know that he resigned under considerable political pressure and that Ford felt compelled to pardon him.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 1:01 pm to CptBengal
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AFRICOM general testimony...yesterday
Speaks only to capability, not to the administration's reasoning. I understand the desire to make that connection, but it isn't there (in evidence).
Posted on 5/2/14 at 1:02 pm to Pettifogger
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Speaks only to capability, not to the administration's reasoning.
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 1:05 pm to CptBengal
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Id love to see a "reasonable" explanation as to why not.
You mean an explanation as to the response or lack thereof?
Posted on 5/2/14 at 1:10 pm to Pettifogger
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I don't know why anyone would dispute that there was potential criminal prosecution at stake for Nixon's administration. That is simply undeniable. We don't know how good the case would have been, but we do know that he resigned under considerable political pressure and that Ford felt compelled to pardon him.
Come on man, get with it. Of course Nixon would have been charged with perjury for the lies related to the cover-up. No one doubts that.
This is why its absurd to focus on the narrow definition of ' was a crime was committed'.
Nixon's perjury was committed during the congressional investigation of the MASSIVE 'crime' of breaking and entering by political ops. The perjury came about BECAUSE there was an investigation and he was placed under oath.
There are those in this thread who claim that the Benghazi affair is less serious that the Watergate break in because it's not a crime. They aren't referencing the perjury but the break in.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 1:14 pm to Rex
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There was nothing criminal in anything Obama, Rice, or Clinton did or said regarding Benghazi.
Someone sounds scared.
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