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Stealing medical services.....
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:56 pm
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:56 pm
I read a post on my Facebook timeline tonight that deeply troubled me. Let me summarize:
Girl had some major back surgery a couple months ago.
Tonight she posts this:
Received 3 bills in from the surgery that totaled $8,850, I have no idea I'm going to pay for this, I don't even have a dollar in my checking account.
Then goes on to gripe about how she would have gone to a different hospital, was cared for by mostly residents, and complained it took several hours to get her staples taken out. If I had to guess the girl had obamacare.
Then the part that really gets scary, where people start responding on how to get out of the bill.
One person brags they once paid $100 on a $10,000 bill.
Another told the girl to pay $10/month, and hope at the end of the year the hospital writes the remainder off.
Do these people walk into Ruths Chris, order steak and then proceed to skip the check when they see it's an expensive meal? I guess the doctors should work out of the kindness of their hearts. It's not that she doesn't have the money to pay, but what people are urging her to do is basically stealing. Of course the tax payer get stuck with the bill at the end. The parasites we have in this country make me sick.
Girl had some major back surgery a couple months ago.
Tonight she posts this:
Received 3 bills in from the surgery that totaled $8,850, I have no idea I'm going to pay for this, I don't even have a dollar in my checking account.
Then goes on to gripe about how she would have gone to a different hospital, was cared for by mostly residents, and complained it took several hours to get her staples taken out. If I had to guess the girl had obamacare.
Then the part that really gets scary, where people start responding on how to get out of the bill.
One person brags they once paid $100 on a $10,000 bill.
Another told the girl to pay $10/month, and hope at the end of the year the hospital writes the remainder off.
Do these people walk into Ruths Chris, order steak and then proceed to skip the check when they see it's an expensive meal? I guess the doctors should work out of the kindness of their hearts. It's not that she doesn't have the money to pay, but what people are urging her to do is basically stealing. Of course the tax payer get stuck with the bill at the end. The parasites we have in this country make me sick.
This post was edited on 4/25/14 at 12:12 am
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:59 pm to TJG210
back surgery isn't typically an emergency thing. why the frick did she get back surgery when she couldn't afford it?
Posted on 4/25/14 at 12:10 am to TJG210
quote:
I guess the doctors should work out of the kindness of their hearts.
This is EXACTLY what many people believe. They think we're supposed to be completely benevolent, altruistic and have no concern whatsoever for our well-being or that of our families. We are merely there to serve the public when they get sick and should feel bad for expecting to be compensated for our efforts.
This post was edited on 4/25/14 at 12:11 am
Posted on 4/25/14 at 12:20 am to TJG210
quote:If was any other industry we'd call it theft.
Received 3 bills in from the surgery that totaled $8,850, I have no idea I'm going to pay for this, I don't even have a dollar in my checking account.
My grandfather would NOT go to the doctor, even though we qualified for Medicare. Didn't want to take what he couldn't pay for. Today... people believe they are entitled to their neighbor's money.
It is indeed sickening. And there is NO legislative solution that will fix healthcare. Until we go back to my grandfather's attitude--not taking what we cannot pay for, the costs will only go up for those of us that pay our bills, until we too, refuse to pay. Then no one will have healthcare.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 2:46 am to TJG210
This is a great example of why it's bullshite that prices for medical procedures aren't up front like they are in other services. I can sympathize with the sticker shock of a bill like that even if I'd never resort to cheating the hospital out of the money.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 9:58 am to TJG210
Some states treat theft of services pretty harshly.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 11:39 am to TJG210
this is another example of why we need health care coverage for everyone, like the way they do in other modern countries around the world
Posted on 4/25/14 at 11:43 am to TJG210
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If I had to guess the girl had obamacare.
if she had obamacare, it would be paid for and she wouldn't be posting this.
I agree we should not steal medical services and thos epeople should be prosecuted for theft.
We should also tell people how much something costs prior to them doing the procedure. Or at least a good faith estimate.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 12:49 pm to TJG210
I do not think most people mind paying the doctor a fair price for his labor however being billed 6 months later for advil st 60$ a pop or a fricking robe for100 that you never had leaves a bad taste in peoples mouth. This leads to them saying screw the hospital or doctor and their bullshite bill. Next guy comes along and they raise his bill to cover the last and the circle continues.
A better question is, how moral is it of a hospital to steal from its patients by overcharging.
A better question is, how moral is it of a hospital to steal from its patients by overcharging.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 1:58 pm to TJG210
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Do these people walk into Ruths Chris, order steak and then proceed to skip the check when they see it's an expensive meal?
I've never heard of a $100,000 steak that I have to buy or I get a crooked leg for the rest of my life.
I've never heard of Ruth Chris raising the prices of their steaks for the customers most unable to pay. Sounds kind of backwards but hospitals do it all the time - its like an inverse sliding scale - you don't have insurance? Well frick you, the price just went up 10 fold! ha ha ha ha!!!!
I do know a guy who wiped out in a skiing accident and had no health insurance. THe bill for fixing his leg was $10,000 - the hospital bill was $100,000 for a 3 day stay. He paid the doctor who fixed his leg the 10k in cash and went home. Wouldn't you know it - a few months and a bankrupcty lawyer later and the hospital is willing to settle for exactly what he has in the bank - 25k.
Of course - this would never happen in most of Europe - but we're iNSane here.
This post was edited on 4/25/14 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 4/26/14 at 12:09 am to TJG210
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Stealing medical services.....
One health care provider billed me at the time of service in cash then double billed me by taking the same from my HRA - I guess they "stole" from me and instead of just calling them to get my money back I should call the cops, right?
Or is it only stealing when the customer winds up with the negative balance?
This post was edited on 4/26/14 at 12:10 am
Posted on 4/26/14 at 8:02 am to TJG210
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Then the part that really gets scary, where people start responding on how to get out of the bill.
One person brags they once paid $100 on a $10,000 bill.
Another told the girl to pay $10/month, and hope at the end of the year the hospital writes the remainder off.
Yes. But they don't get off scot-free. Their credit is destroyed or they'll have to declare bankruptcy....so it not really "getting out" of anything.
This is exactly why many people are for insurance mandates.
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