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re: Interested in Law School? Employment Numbers
Posted on 4/23/14 at 11:42 am to theronswanson
Posted on 4/23/14 at 11:42 am to theronswanson
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However, can you honestly say that legal writing and being able to effectively argue are not critical skills for an attorney?
Sure, these skills can be refined through a good legal writing program, but generally someone is either a proficient writer or they are not. It's tough to teach someone to be a good writer.
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 11:49 am to UpToPar
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but generally someone is either a proficient writer or they are not. It's tough to teach someone to be a good writer.
Meh. I agree to some extent, but with anything else in life it's how much time you put into it. Someone who is a bad writer and is lazy will always be a bad writer.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 11:51 am to TheOcean
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Meh. I agree to some extent, but with anything else in life it's how much time you put into it. Someone who is a bad writer and is lazy will always be a bad writer
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:01 pm to Bigpoppat
It's creepy as frick. You would think someone in law school would know better. But I guess that's why a decent % are unemployed. 
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:03 pm to Mr.Perfect
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i bet your work ethic is amazing
it is
i just said used a trololol in response to a trololol
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:04 pm to TheOcean
Gotta say though, a ban bet is a binding contract and this is very serious business. If Chuck Plattsmeir gets out that you are in breach, kiss goodbye to your C&F review.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:07 pm to Cold Cous Cous
The truth is leaking out and enrollment is dropping. Good luck to anyone still considering law school.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:08 pm to Monk
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The truth is leaking out and enrollment is dropping.
Truth, big time. LSU's enrollment is dropping like a rock.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:11 pm to Monk
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The truth is leaking out and enrollment is dropping. Good luck to anyone still considering law school.
Law school market is correcting itself. Right now the unemployment #s are bad, but admissions have dropped A LOT. I think I heard somewhere between 20-30% nationally.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:31 pm to TheOcean
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TheOcean
This. If anything, that bodes well for people still considering law school or people currently in law school (inb4 law school bias). Law is a profession dominated by older folks, and in 10-15 years, combining that with exponentially falling admissions numbers will benefit those who actually stuck through law school.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:50 pm to lsu2006
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So, someone who doesn't get into Harvard Law should just switch gears and go Med School. Good call.
If you don't agree with this then you don't know the legal market. This is 100% true.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:54 pm to bluemoons
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and in 10-15 years, combining that with exponentially falling admissions numbers will benefit those who actually stuck through law school.
We can only pray
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:56 pm to bluemoons
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Good luck to her. Tough choice I'm facing right now. Biglaw and money, or small firm on the northshore and less money + more freedom/better life.
I'm going with the latter. I totally understand why people opt for the former, but just not for me.
I highly recommend reconsidering. New Orleans "big law" works a roughly 9 to 6 or 7 day, which is maybe an 8 or 9 hour day after you exclude lunch. That's fricking nothing, particularly when you're young. Unless the pay at the North Shore firm is substantially similar and will remain that way the rest of your career, I would think taking the "big firm" job is a better option, at least for the first several years out of school. It is much easier to move from a "big firm" to a small firm if you find that you don't like what you're doing, but I think you may be disappointed if you think doing the small firm job will allow you to work only 7 hours a day and play golf the rest of the time. Besides, what's another hour? Seriously.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 1:00 pm to LoveThatMoney
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New Orleans "big law" works a roughly 9 to 6 or 7 day, which is maybe an 8 or 9 hour day after you exclude lunch.
Not bad at all considering most employees dick around for a % of the day.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 1:07 pm to TheOcean
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Not bad at all considering most employees dick around for a % of the day.
Yeah, but you gotta make that dicking off time up somewhere to hit your billables. If you bill hours, there is no break/vacation; you gotta make that time up somewhere. You can't work from 9-6 every day and hit your billable hours goal..
Posted on 4/23/14 at 1:09 pm to LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 1:10 pm to Cold Cous Cous
For the record, I've always had a slight interest in law school but never thought it was a practical career choice with amount of income vs. debt ratio unless you were going IVY league or another prestigious school.
What I never understood though was the point of people going into law school without a central focus on specializing in one particular area (as much as you can) and focusing whatever electives you have to that end.
For instance, if I was going into law school right now I'd specialize in tax law, IP law or some other niche that a large portion never specializes in.
That's the only way I can see you getting a return besides selling out and ambulance chasing or opening up your own shop in a small-medium size town.
What I never understood though was the point of people going into law school without a central focus on specializing in one particular area (as much as you can) and focusing whatever electives you have to that end.
For instance, if I was going into law school right now I'd specialize in tax law, IP law or some other niche that a large portion never specializes in.
That's the only way I can see you getting a return besides selling out and ambulance chasing or opening up your own shop in a small-medium size town.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 1:12 pm to Cajun Revolution
I 100% never went without a full ride.
Going to a non-T20 school and racking up 200k+ in debt for law school is crazy talk unless you are top 10% or have some serious connections.
Going to a non-T20 school and racking up 200k+ in debt for law school is crazy talk unless you are top 10% or have some serious connections.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 1:13 pm to TheOcean
I went on a full ride and I can't say I'd do it all over again.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 1:13 pm to brodeo
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m not suprised at the louisiana law schools since the Louisiana Bar Exam has the toughest bar passage rate in the nation and Southern has some of the most lax admission standards in the country.
I rode to the airport once with a international coporate lawyer a few months back. He was talking about having to take the bar in LA- since apparently they're doing business here now- and how it was the toughest he'd had to pass. Apparently harder than NYC's. He was a Cornell Grad if I remember right.
He also practiced in D.C and they have something where if you're licensed in X amount of states you don't have to pass the bar? I don't know. It was kind of over my head at that point. I did note that LA's was tough though.
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