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re: Interested in Law School? Employment Numbers
Posted on 4/23/14 at 1:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/23/14 at 1:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
I'm guessing that's like law school masters? Like I said, I have no plans on going but if I did, I'd consider getting the best bang for my buck.
I'm sure plenty of good livings have been made off divorces and dwis. It's just not something I'd do if I knew I was saddled with 200K debt.
I'm sure plenty of good livings have been made off divorces and dwis. It's just not something I'd do if I knew I was saddled with 200K debt.
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 1:39 pm to Cajun Revolution
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I'm guessing that's like law school masters?
yes
i took a lot of tax classes, and multiple friends went to elite tax LLM programs.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 1:42 pm to Cajun Revolution
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LSU is still your best bang for buck in this state in undergrad and law school IMO.
Number 3 valued law school in the country.
They always pimp that number out
Posted on 4/23/14 at 1:45 pm to Cajun Revolution
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My buddy that just graduated from LSU, I was told was accepted at Harvard (near perfect LSAT) but was given a free ride at LSU. So he took LSU. It seems to have worked out swell for him.
Hitting the law school lottery, as I call it, really is influenced by how well you set yourself up for success. I have hit it. My wife has hit it. We both went to law school for next to free or for entirely free, knowing that we could/would do well at that school because we knew we would be among the smartest and most disciplined there, and we both have high paying jobs in a massive legal market that is sustainable. Not even three years out and we have no school debt (got rid of that within 5 months of starting our jobs), new cars, and a new house.
That's the lottery. Set yourself up to win it.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 1:47 pm to LoveThatMoney
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This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 10:36 am
Posted on 4/23/14 at 1:48 pm to LoveThatMoney
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Hitting the law school lottery, as I call it, really is influenced by how well you set yourself up for success. I have hit it. My wife has hit it. We both went to law school for next to free or for entirely free, knowing that we could/would do well at that school because we knew we would be among the smartest and most disciplined there, and we both have high paying jobs in a massive legal market that is sustainable. Not even three years out and we have no school debt (got rid of that within 5 months of starting our jobs), new cars, and a new house.
That's the lottery. Set yourself up to win it.
I want to hate you, but I just can't.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 1:51 pm to TheOcean
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I want to hate you, but I just can't.
I feel like I need to be a law school motivational speaker. ETA:
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The lottery? Not having debt?
In that case, I'm winning
I would say you are.
This post was edited on 4/23/14 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 4/23/14 at 1:51 pm to Tigerlaff
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Was I late because I was working? Impossible, no 2013 grads have jobs.
This statement is so much truer than you know. I have heard horror stories about so many LSU grads do not have jobs. Haven't heard those same stories from SULC. Prolly because of their excellent legal writing program.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 1:54 pm to LoveThatMoney
For me to go to law school right now. I'd have to be guaranteed 200K coming out. That's what I plan on making in 4 years.
That ain't happening.
Take into account law school and living expenses in law school.
It's just impossible.
That ain't happening.
Take into account law school and living expenses in law school.
It's just impossible.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 1:54 pm to theronswanson
Ah. He's finally here.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 1:58 pm to Cajun Revolution
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For me to go to law school right now. I'd have to be guaranteed 200K coming out. That's what I plan on making in 4 years.
That ain't happening.
Take into account law school and living expenses in law school.
It's just impossible.
It's not impossible. But it is unlikely.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 2:04 pm to Cajun Revolution
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For me to go to law school right now. I'd have to be guaranteed 200K coming out.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 2:07 pm to Cajun Revolution
Think you'd cut it huh? Take it from those of us who've survived the crucible; it ain't kid stuff.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 2:10 pm to LoveThatMoney
Here's law:
1. Graduate. Work 70 hours per week. For 7 years. Then, move to a smaller firm and do the same thing. Make pretty good money but never see your family. Make it hard on plaintiff's lawyers by never paying and looking down upon them. Have affair with secretary.
2. Be an injury lawyer. Try to make a case out of slipping on a leaf outside Winn Dixie. Have clients who may or may not win their cases want you to lend them money. Make fun of how much defense lawyers work. Always face ethical issues in getting / keeping cases.
3. Be a divorce lawyer. Charge $250 for like 20 hours of work. Client pays $100, but never pays the rest. Resist advances of MILF client who wants to pay in-kind. Take any kind of case that people will pay for. Struggle to pay overhead and staff.
4. Go work for the government. Wear a lanyard with a name-tag on it. Get time off. Go to conferences. Don't make much money. Act like you know it all.
5. Go work for a corporation. Boss outside lawyers around. Make outside counsel wine and dine you. When they merge with another firm, you get to lose your job.
6. Be a criminal defense lawyer. Wear a cowboy hat or a feather boa so people will remember you. Take criminal cases and then realize they can't pay you - they are criminals. Handle cases anyway under threats from clients. Take criminal appointment cases for $20 per hour.
What did I miss?
1. Graduate. Work 70 hours per week. For 7 years. Then, move to a smaller firm and do the same thing. Make pretty good money but never see your family. Make it hard on plaintiff's lawyers by never paying and looking down upon them. Have affair with secretary.
2. Be an injury lawyer. Try to make a case out of slipping on a leaf outside Winn Dixie. Have clients who may or may not win their cases want you to lend them money. Make fun of how much defense lawyers work. Always face ethical issues in getting / keeping cases.
3. Be a divorce lawyer. Charge $250 for like 20 hours of work. Client pays $100, but never pays the rest. Resist advances of MILF client who wants to pay in-kind. Take any kind of case that people will pay for. Struggle to pay overhead and staff.
4. Go work for the government. Wear a lanyard with a name-tag on it. Get time off. Go to conferences. Don't make much money. Act like you know it all.
5. Go work for a corporation. Boss outside lawyers around. Make outside counsel wine and dine you. When they merge with another firm, you get to lose your job.
6. Be a criminal defense lawyer. Wear a cowboy hat or a feather boa so people will remember you. Take criminal cases and then realize they can't pay you - they are criminals. Handle cases anyway under threats from clients. Take criminal appointment cases for $20 per hour.
What did I miss?
Posted on 4/23/14 at 2:12 pm to Traffic Circle
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4. Go work for the government. Wear a lanyard with a name-tag on it. Get time off. Go to conferences. Don't make much money. Act like you know it all.
If 6 figs after 4-5 years is not much money, I don't want to live on dis planet. Plus amazing benefits.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 2:13 pm to Traffic Circle
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Here's law:
1. Graduate. Work 70 hours per week. For 7 years. Then, move to a smaller firm and do the same thing. Make pretty good money but never see your family. Make it hard on plaintiff's lawyers by never paying and looking down upon them. Have affair with secretary.
2. Be an injury lawyer. Try to make a case out of slipping on a leaf outside Winn Dixie. Have clients who may or may not win their cases want you to lend them money. Make fun of how much defense lawyers work. Always face ethical issues in getting / keeping cases.
3. Be a divorce lawyer. Charge $250 for like 20 hours of work. Client pays $100, but never pays the rest. Resist advances of MILF client who wants to pay in-kind. Take any kind of case that people will pay for. Struggle to pay overhead and staff.
4. Go work for the government. Wear a lanyard with a name-tag on it. Get time off. Go to conferences. Don't make much money. Act like you know it all.
5. Go work for a corporation. Boss outside lawyers around. Make outside counsel wine and dine you. When they merge with another firm, you get to lose your job.
6. Be a criminal defense lawyer. Wear a cowboy hat or a feather boa so people will remember you. Take criminal cases and then realize they can't pay you - they are criminals. Handle cases anyway under threats from clients. Take criminal appointment cases for $20 per hour.
What did I miss?
Pretty sure you nailed the stereotypes.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 2:14 pm to TheOcean
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If 6 figs after 4-5 years is not much money, I don't want to live on dis planet. Plus amazing benefits.
... FBI?
Posted on 4/23/14 at 2:14 pm to Tigerlaff
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Think you'd cut it huh? Take it from those of us who've survived the crucible; it ain't kid stuff.
I have no desire to put in the dedication it would take to pass law school. Nor do I feel like taking on 200K in debt, forfeiting my current earnings and going through the internship process.
No, I think I will pass.
I'd be giving up about 650K with debt and income over those four years. Easily. No way I'm ever making that back or will come close to that.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 2:15 pm to Traffic Circle
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Here's law:
1. Graduate. Work 70 hours per week. For 7 years. Then, move to a smaller firm and do the same thing. Make pretty good money but never see your family. Make it hard on plaintiff's lawyers by never paying and looking down upon them. Have affair with secretary.
2. Be an injury lawyer. Try to make a case out of slipping on a leaf outside Winn Dixie. Have clients who may or may not win their cases want you to lend them money. Make fun of how much defense lawyers work. Always face ethical issues in getting / keeping cases.
3. Be a divorce lawyer. Charge $250 for like 20 hours of work. Client pays $100, but never pays the rest. Resist advances of MILF client who wants to pay in-kind. Take any kind of case that people will pay for. Struggle to pay overhead and staff.
4. Go work for the government. Wear a lanyard with a name-tag on it. Get time off. Go to conferences. Don't make much money. Act like you know it all.
5. Go work for a corporation. Boss outside lawyers around. Make outside counsel wine and dine you. When they merge with another firm, you get to lose your job.
6. Be a criminal defense lawyer. Wear a cowboy hat or a feather boa so people will remember you. Take criminal cases and then realize they can't pay you - they are criminals. Handle cases anyway under threats from clients. Take criminal appointment cases for $20 per hour.
What did I miss?
maritime insurance defense
Posted on 4/23/14 at 2:16 pm to Carson123987
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maritime insurance defense
That's number 1.
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