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Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 10:53 pm to
Oh man, just a message board. I could not pretend to know who you are from a single post as you elected to do in discribing the entirety of a belief system around a story in the bible. All in a single sentence no less...
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Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 10:56 pm to
In do not believe in religion. So that should be cleared up.. Rather i choose to have hope that there is more to this life than what is known as our day-to-day.

For me, science doesn't answer everything.. But it does clear up a many great questions.
This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 10:58 pm
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 10:57 pm to
To get better of course...

Why do you go to the doctor?
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55559 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 10:58 pm to
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Rather i choose to have hope that there is more to this life than what is known as our day-to-day.


I hope for things which I have control over. What I cannot control, I tend not to worry about.

ETA: Excepting, of course, college football. I have no control (except donations), but I damn sure hope a lot!
This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 11:00 pm
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46628 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 10:58 pm to
Because his biological instinct to avoid death is stronger than his socially acquired belief in god.

That isnt a knock on him, it's simply the reality of existence. We are the only lineage of animals with a conscious awareness of our inevitable death, which in so many ways is a curse. Its an evolutionary accident, an unfortunate side effect of our adaptive thinking skills that makes us so successful. In order to cope with our terminal condition, we've come up with endless ways to rationalize it, try and avoid it and ultimately eternally put it off with afterlives.

In the end, nobody loses sleep over the idea that the dog simply ceases to exist when it dies. Why are we so arrogant to believe that we're any different?
This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 10:59 pm
Posted by JazzyJeff
Japan
Member since Sep 2006
3938 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 10:58 pm to
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At that point, we'd be doing the same thing we accuse christians of: Ignoring the evidence
Interesting statement. As a Christian, what evidence would you say I'm ignoring?
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 10:59 pm to
True, but in the end, no one knows.. Even your beliefs are just that.. We could be a giant science project for aliens!
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46628 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:00 pm to
quote:

In do not believe in religion. So that should be cleared up.. Rather i choose to have hope that there is more to this life than what is known as our day-to-day.


There either is an afterlife, or there isnt. Worrying about it and hoping for it wont change that.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46628 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:01 pm to
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Interesting statement. As a Christian, what evidence would you say I'm ignoring?


Depends on what type of christian you are.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55559 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:03 pm to
Based on his sig pic, I assume Jazzy is some type of Orthodox.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35706 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:03 pm to
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Why are we so arrogant to believe that we're any different?
Because that's how we've been programmed since birth.
It's much easier to part you from your money if you believe that doing so somehow connects you with superiority.

Bottom line - it's always about money.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263366 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:03 pm to
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Christians cant even handle evolution, you really think they'd cope well with aliens who've never heard of Jesus?




Billy Graham believed in ET.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:03 pm to
Hope doesn't mean it changes anything..

As a parent, I hope my children never experience some of the harshness of life, yet it's there.....

For example, I always hope LSU wins every game
Posted by JazzyJeff
Japan
Member since Sep 2006
3938 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:04 pm to
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Depends on what type of christian you are.
Well you made a very sweeping generalization, so humor me.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72422 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:08 pm to
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Are sharks special? They can breathe underwater, we certainly cant do that.
Sure we can. It's called scuba diving.
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What about birds? They can fly, we cant.
Again, we can. We invented airplanes.
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What about plants? They can make their own sugar from sunlight, air and water.
Well, you got me on that one. We haven't figured out how to photosynthesize our own sugars yet. Doesn't mean we won't be able to do it in the future though.
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The fact that our neocortex is bigger doesnt make us special, it makes us different.
I disagree. That is what makes us special. No other creature can go into other environments and dominate as we do. We standalone on this planet.

Can a shark leave the water and dominate the land? No, but we sure as hell dominate the oceans.

Do birds reign supreme in the skies? No. We do.

Our brain makes us elite in comparison to all other creatures on this planet.
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
9322 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:09 pm to
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Well, you got me on that one. We haven't figured out how to photosynthesize our own sugars yet. Doesn't mean we won't be able to do it in the future though.



We create our own sugars, its called Gluconeogenesis. It occurs in our liver. Just giving you this one.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55559 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:10 pm to
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We create our own sugars, its called Gluconeogenesis. It occurs in our liver. Just giving you this one


Come on, Scruffy! You're in med school, you ought to know this.

(I sure as hell didn't)
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46628 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:10 pm to
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Well you made a very sweeping generalization, so humor me.


Do you accept evolution? How old do you believe the earth is? Do you believe the OT stories to be literal or more allegorical? Etc.

These are the kinds of things I'd need to know before answering. Some christians believe by ignoring evidentiary claims of science, history, archeology, etc. and some believe either in spite of or in tandem with them.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72422 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:11 pm to
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We create our own sugars, its called Gluconeogenesis. It occurs in our liver. Just giving you this one.
Yea, I got that, but we haven't figured out photosynthesis yet. Maybe genetic splicing in the future will fix that.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:11 pm to
Christianity and science actually agree on many things. Not sure of point to be made. Better off making your case instead of waiting to find a hole.
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