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re: So my daughter has received interest from an Ivy League school
Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:47 pm to anc
Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:47 pm to anc
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Talk me out of pursuing it.
No.
It is an absolutely beautiful area, and I absolutely "lol" at the idea of Princeton as a bastion of liberalism.
Good luck finding a higher concentration of wealth anywhere outside of Manhattan.
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 5:04 pm to anc
Dude. Don't squash it.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 5:11 pm to anc
My education at LSU cost more than $7k a year and I had tops.
I'm counting school, books, housing, car ins, etc.
If I had that kind of scholarship I would have definitely taken it.
I'm counting school, books, housing, car ins, etc.
If I had that kind of scholarship I would have definitely taken it.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 5:11 pm to anc
my son just received an offer to play football at Princeton. 
Posted on 4/21/14 at 5:36 pm to anc
I received interest from Columbia when I was in HS. I chose not to pursue it seriously, and I have often regretted not doing so. Your daughter owes it to herself to at least see what Princeton is all about and if she thinks she fits there.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 5:36 pm to anc
Congrats! I attended Princeton for an Executive Graduate course. Beautiful campus.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 5:39 pm to anc
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Talk me out of pursuing it. Rhodes is her top choice and it is going to cost about $11k a year after scholarships.
I went to Rhodes...let me know if you have any questions about it. 
Awesome 4 years. ETA: So that everyone is clear, if I had applied and gotten into Princeton, then I would have been off to the northeast in a heartbeat.
Nonetheless, Rhodes' strongest program is probably the sciences and the opportunities at St Jude and the hands on experience at the Med are world-class for pre-med undergraduates.
This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 4/21/14 at 5:42 pm to anc
Send her to LSU..It would basically be free for her.
And she would be a Tiger and we get another doctor in Louisiana...everybody wins!
also, pics of said wife would be proper thing to do
And she would be a Tiger and we get another doctor in Louisiana...everybody wins!
also, pics of said wife would be proper thing to do
Posted on 4/21/14 at 6:51 pm to anc
If you seriously have so little respect for your daughter's intelligence that you're worried about her, a girl smart enough to get into Ivy League schools in the first place, being "brainwashed" into accepting more liberal ideas than you'd like, you don't deserve to have a child as smart as her in the first place.
This is incredibly insulting to her and, if she found out your rationale for it, this would do more to move her away from your principles than anything a professor could do. I would be furious in her shoes.
This is incredibly insulting to her and, if she found out your rationale for it, this would do more to move her away from your principles than anything a professor could do. I would be furious in her shoes.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 7:10 pm to anc
7k for Princeton ain't shite
Posted on 4/21/14 at 7:47 pm to anc
Few points from a parent whose child is at one of the top schools mentioned.
If your daughter tests well, your mailbox will be filled with letters and expensive, glossy direct mail from colleges. Some will be the big names, others you will have never heard of. These are great to learn about the schools but they mean nothing about the chance of getting in. The schools want as many applicants as possible to get their admit rate as low as possible. Don't think the letter, however personal, is a indicator of their interest. The top Ivies and Stanford admit rates are 6-7%. Unless you have cured cancer or brokered Mid East peace, getting in is a crap shoot.
Another issue brought up was grades. Son was valedictorian, great test scores, AP scholar, etc.. But not doing as well as friends at LSU. The competition at top schools is intense. Everyone there was at the top of their high school class and for the most part are from the best high schools in the country. It was a wake up call for him. He always made A's with minimal effort. Not anymore.
But the upside is definitely the contacts made. Fraternity bro's dad runs a hedge fund. Guy down the hall's dad is a leader in Congress. Spent Thanksgiving with the family of a Presidential candidate's grandson. Dated girl whose dad is CEO of well known company.
And he is having a blast being there. It's hard work and it took him a semester to figure it out. But he will never regret it and I am happy to help him do it.
If your daughter tests well, your mailbox will be filled with letters and expensive, glossy direct mail from colleges. Some will be the big names, others you will have never heard of. These are great to learn about the schools but they mean nothing about the chance of getting in. The schools want as many applicants as possible to get their admit rate as low as possible. Don't think the letter, however personal, is a indicator of their interest. The top Ivies and Stanford admit rates are 6-7%. Unless you have cured cancer or brokered Mid East peace, getting in is a crap shoot.
Another issue brought up was grades. Son was valedictorian, great test scores, AP scholar, etc.. But not doing as well as friends at LSU. The competition at top schools is intense. Everyone there was at the top of their high school class and for the most part are from the best high schools in the country. It was a wake up call for him. He always made A's with minimal effort. Not anymore.
But the upside is definitely the contacts made. Fraternity bro's dad runs a hedge fund. Guy down the hall's dad is a leader in Congress. Spent Thanksgiving with the family of a Presidential candidate's grandson. Dated girl whose dad is CEO of well known company.
And he is having a blast being there. It's hard work and it took him a semester to figure it out. But he will never regret it and I am happy to help him do it.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 7:58 pm to anc
I would recommend pursuing a learning environment that works for her. Perhaps going to a smaller, less prestigious school will allow her to be a "big fish in a little pond".
This interesting phenomenon is addressed/supported in Gladwell's "David and Goliath". High achievers at smaller schools performed equally with their peers at Ivy League schools (with the exception of the truly elite at the Ivy League schools who are on another level). Gladwell notes that it can be detrimental to the psyche to be rendered a little fish in a big pond...
There will be more import placed on the prestige of her residency training. Few will ask or care where she attended undergrad.
This interesting phenomenon is addressed/supported in Gladwell's "David and Goliath". High achievers at smaller schools performed equally with their peers at Ivy League schools (with the exception of the truly elite at the Ivy League schools who are on another level). Gladwell notes that it can be detrimental to the psyche to be rendered a little fish in a big pond...
There will be more import placed on the prestige of her residency training. Few will ask or care where she attended undergrad.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 8:24 pm to anc
Receiving interest? What the hell does that mean? Hell I got mail from pretty much all the Ivies just based on my ACT score and I wouldn't have had a shot in hell getting in undergrad. When she's accepted, this is worth talking about.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 8:34 pm to anc
Cool! I never heard of Rhodes before now. I'd encourage my daughter to go to Princeton if those were my choices.
Do the Ivy Leagues consider diversity when reviewing applications?
Do the Ivy Leagues consider diversity when reviewing applications?
Posted on 4/21/14 at 8:37 pm to anc
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Part of me wants to squash it now. to humor myself, I filled out a Net Price Calculator. They have crazy scholarship packages.
Everybody forgets this line and freaks out over this...
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Talk me out of pursuing it
And then freaks out over some BS about liberal groupthink that was not said by the OP.
This thread is mostly from a financial point of view and I really don't get why you should freak out over it.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:47 pm to anc
As someone who's actually got experience with the selective college environment, I always try to post in these threads.
I'll go ahead and blow some minds here: LINK
That's a board where high schoolers (who are more involved/obsessed with school than anyone on this board can dream) post their resumes and what schools they get into. That thread is for Princeton. In it, plenty of people with absolutely ridiculous scores/activities get rejected.
Moral of the story: You shouldn't even be worrying about any of this until she's applied to a bunch of schools and thinks she has a chance of getting in, which will be after New Years.
Yes, assuming she is involved in school extracurriculars and can write well, she'll probably have a chance at all schools with a 35 and being from MS. Make sure she looks into the requirements for each school. I couldn't apply to a bunch of Ivies because of not taking the SAT Subject Tests, which was irritating.
She will most likely get into schools around Vanderbilt's level for sure. That is also a must better choice than Rhodes. When you have a strong student like her, you either pay for an elite school, or you go for free to an average one. DO NOT pay 11k a year for a school like Rhodes. That would be stupid.
I'll go ahead and blow some minds here: LINK
That's a board where high schoolers (who are more involved/obsessed with school than anyone on this board can dream) post their resumes and what schools they get into. That thread is for Princeton. In it, plenty of people with absolutely ridiculous scores/activities get rejected.
Moral of the story: You shouldn't even be worrying about any of this until she's applied to a bunch of schools and thinks she has a chance of getting in, which will be after New Years.
Yes, assuming she is involved in school extracurriculars and can write well, she'll probably have a chance at all schools with a 35 and being from MS. Make sure she looks into the requirements for each school. I couldn't apply to a bunch of Ivies because of not taking the SAT Subject Tests, which was irritating.
She will most likely get into schools around Vanderbilt's level for sure. That is also a must better choice than Rhodes. When you have a strong student like her, you either pay for an elite school, or you go for free to an average one. DO NOT pay 11k a year for a school like Rhodes. That would be stupid.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:28 am to anc
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Princeton
My most conservative friend did Engineering there if it makes you feel better
Posted on 4/22/14 at 6:18 am to anc
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Would cost me about $7000/year.
i'm really not sure why this is even a question. i'd pick other schools over princeton, but not the alternatives you mentioned. and that cost is beans.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 6:31 am to anc
This is one case where the apple fell very far from the tree.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:20 am to anc
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So my daughter has received interest from an Ivy League school
Princeton, to be exact.
That must suck
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