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What would a U.S.-Russia war look like?
Posted on 3/6/14 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 3/6/14 at 12:39 pm
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Nuclear ArmageddonEven with the slow mutual nuclear disarmament since the end of the Cold War, the U.S. and Russia each have thousands of nuclear warheads at the ready. As Eugene Chow noted earlier this year, the entire stockpile of U.S. intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) — 448 active — is essentially aimed squarely at Russia. Russia's hundreds of ICBMs are probably returning the favor.
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A conventional war in Eastern EuropeThis is the other scenario that never happened in the Cold War. Now, the possibility of scenario one (nuclear Armageddon) makes this one almost equally unlikely. But for the sake of argument, let's assume this hypothetical U.S.-Russia war breaks out in Ukraine, and that other NATO forces are supplementing U.S. troops, ships, and aircraft. Unlike in the Asia-Pacific, where the U.S. keeps China in check (and vice versa, as Eugene Chow explained), NATO provides the United States with a robust military alliance set up specifically to take on Soviet Russia.
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A proxy warShort of a negotiated peace with no casualties, this is the best of the bad options. The U.S. and Russia have already fought a string of proxy wars, the big ones being Vietnam to Afghanistan. In this scenario, the U.S. might finance Ukrainian forces to fight Russian soldiers, with the probable goal of driving them out of Ukrainian territory. Or, should the U.S. or NATO back the Ukrainian army, Russia might fund pro-Moscow separatist movements in Ukraine against it.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 12:48 pm to boxcarbarney
best case scenario: billions wasted and thousands (perhaps 100s of thousands) dead.
Worst case: all life on earth dead.
Worst case: all life on earth dead.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 12:50 pm to boxcarbarney
It would look like China & Russia vs US.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 12:52 pm to boxcarbarney
Red Dawn comes to mind.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 12:59 pm to boxcarbarney
proxy war with it ending in another cold war due to our increased troop presence in Europe
Posted on 3/6/14 at 1:02 pm to boxcarbarney
Read this book, it is great...
Posted on 3/6/14 at 1:10 pm to boxcarbarney
About one hour long, lots of mushrooms and glass being produced from them missiles flying overhead. The herds culled would be large in numbers.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 1:17 pm to boxcarbarney
The Russian conventional military would get waxed by any of the major western European powers, including the much-maligned France. They'd have a tough time with Poland, and while they'd beat Ukraine, it wouldn't be a walkover. The Russian army is a shadow of the Soviet era, and even then it was largely a hollow force.
If it went nuclear, all bets would ge off.
If it went nuclear, all bets would ge off.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 1:27 pm to boxcarbarney
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What would a U.S.-Russia war look like?
Well...seeing that NOBAMA has gutted our military to the point the top brass at the Pentagon warn we're barely able to field one fully operational division. IMO, in a conventional war with Russia I believe we'd get our "arse" handed back to us on a platter. Personally I believe that nightmarish scenario [war with Russia-China-Iran] is inevitable. I tell ya...I would not want to be in Poland's [or Israel] shoes right now, knowing they have to depend on NObama to cover their back.
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 3/6/14 at 1:32 pm to boxcarbarney
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What would a U.S.-Russia war look like?
Posted on 3/6/14 at 1:34 pm to boxcarbarney
Imagine getting in a fist fight with someone who has a gun on them. You always have to worry that if he feels like he's getting his arse kicked to bad, he might shoot you. That's why it's always best to avoid these scenarios.
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 3/6/14 at 2:02 pm to boxcarbarney
"Emergency... Emergency...
Everyone do get from Street!"
Posted on 3/6/14 at 2:25 pm to boxcarbarney
Beer summit in the Rose Garden.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 2:47 pm to boxcarbarney
Under this administration with today's entitlement youth I'm just glad I already speak Russian.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 2:51 pm to boxcarbarney
I've never agreed with those that have said that US weapons and tactics need to be changed to be better suited to handle smaller scale, regional conflicts involving asymmetrical warfare such as we faced in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The United States should ALWAYS focus on being equipped to face another world power in a large scale, conventional war because those are the wars that have the highest stakes.
That is why we need M1s, A-10s, Apaches, Raptors, field artillery and other weapon systems that have either been phased out, cancelled outright or produced in smaller numbers than first planned. They are weapon systems designed to beat Russia in Europe and for 20 years we have heard we don't need them any longer. They say we need a "smaller, more nimble" military.
Guess what?
The United States should ALWAYS focus on being equipped to face another world power in a large scale, conventional war because those are the wars that have the highest stakes.
That is why we need M1s, A-10s, Apaches, Raptors, field artillery and other weapon systems that have either been phased out, cancelled outright or produced in smaller numbers than first planned. They are weapon systems designed to beat Russia in Europe and for 20 years we have heard we don't need them any longer. They say we need a "smaller, more nimble" military.
Guess what?
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 3/6/14 at 9:46 pm to boxcarbarney
Not that I am implying they couldn't hold their own but while they were collapsing we were putting contingencies in place.
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