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LSU Compliance Department is on point
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:55 pm
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:55 pm
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In another filing, an e-mail chain from January 2008 showed an LSU athletics department official questioning the NCAA about whether Sports Illustrated was permitted to offer a DVD commemorating LSU's football national title and if players in the DVD would face eligibility questions.
Leeland Zeller, who was the NCAA membership services associate director at the time, responded that an NCAA rules interpretation prohibits the use of the DVD as premium content with a Sports Illustrated subscription.
"Regardless, SI does this ever year," Zeller wrote. "If the school asks about it, they are advised to send a cease and desist letter, which preserves the eligibility of the student-athletes. SI ignores the letter and we all go on about our business."
Also, the NCAA is a joke.
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Nice pickup, Compliance.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 11:24 pm to Joe
Nice find illustrating how things really work.
Compliance is all about preserving the program and not the athletes of course, but that's deservedly a different topic. They're doing their job.
Compliance is all about preserving the program and not the athletes of course, but that's deservedly a different topic. They're doing their job.
Posted on 2/28/14 at 12:22 am to foshizzle
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Compliance is all about preserving the program and not the athletes of course, but that's deservedly a different topic. They're doing their job.
We get Letters in the mail stating what the rules are against giving student athletes benefits. Compliance is def on their shite and I'm sure they send these letters to a lot of businesses around br.
This post was edited on 2/28/14 at 12:23 am
Posted on 2/28/14 at 4:38 am to Joe
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Also, the NCAA is a joke.
Posted on 2/28/14 at 6:07 am to tigerswin03
Bo Bahnsen and the LSU Compliance Department routinely interpret rules disadvantageously for LSU Football. They don't have to do it this way. They choose to do it this way.
In today's collegiate athletics landscape, a Compliance Office can work in a complimentary, congruent path with the football program, or they can work against the grain.
LSU Compliance decided for the latter.
In today's collegiate athletics landscape, a Compliance Office can work in a complimentary, congruent path with the football program, or they can work against the grain.
LSU Compliance decided for the latter.
This post was edited on 2/28/14 at 6:08 am
Posted on 2/28/14 at 8:15 am to GFunk
Bo Bahnsen and the LSU Compliance Department routinely interpret rules disadvantageously for LSU Football. They don't have to do it this way. They choose to do it this way.
In today's collegiate athletics landscape, a Compliance Office can work in a complimentary, congruent path with the football program, or they can work against the grain.
LSU Compliance decided for the latter
I know this to be 100% true based on numerous interactions and comments from many football personel through many years....I am sure other schols have this issue, but make no mistake Bo and Miriam are NOT friends of the football team or our other sports..at all..one bit...
In today's collegiate athletics landscape, a Compliance Office can work in a complimentary, congruent path with the football program, or they can work against the grain.
LSU Compliance decided for the latter
I know this to be 100% true based on numerous interactions and comments from many football personel through many years....I am sure other schols have this issue, but make no mistake Bo and Miriam are NOT friends of the football team or our other sports..at all..one bit...
Posted on 2/28/14 at 8:17 am to GFunk
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LSU Compliance Department is on point Bo Bahnsen and the LSU Compliance Department routinely interpret rules disadvantageously for LSU Football. They don't have to do it this way. They choose to do it this way. In today's collegiate athletics landscape, a Compliance Office can work in a complimentary, congruent path with the football program, or they can work against the grain. LSU Compliance decided for the latter.
Examples to prove you're not just talking out of your arse?
This post was edited on 2/28/14 at 8:34 am
Posted on 2/28/14 at 8:28 am to Joe
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Also, the NCAA is a joke
welcome to the real world, a world that has rules. when there are rules, there has to be someone to set the rules, interpret the rules and enforce the rules. we have cops, judges, umpires and all kinds of institutions set up by government and by organizations to do this dirty work. most people seem to disrespect and even hate these people. at least the ncaa is a private organization that is utimately controlled by it's member institutions. the college members have the power to make any change the majority feels is necessary. it appears that said university's recognize that self regulation is necessary. i think the ncaa does about as good of a job as can be expected on an overall basis even though i don't agree with all of it's rules or it's interpretation of them. i'm glad i don't have that job or any of the ones mentioned above. it can't be fun having everyone criticize you, belittle you and even hate you.
sorry to bring reality into the discussion. now, continue the hate.
Posted on 2/28/14 at 8:40 am to LSU GrandDad
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. i think the ncaa does about as good of a job as can be expected on an overall basis even though i don't agree with all of it's rules or it's interpretation of them. i'm glad i don't have that job or any of the ones mentioned above. it can't be fun having everyone criticize you, belittle you and even hate you.
I'm far from an NCAA hater, but the biggest issue most people have with them is their lack of consistency in enforcing their rules. There is no actual set x violation = x punishment guidelines.
They have a history of turning a blind eye to serious violations while enforcing small ones. They have fairly hard evidence that DJ Fluker took money at Alabama, no response. Soccer player uses university hose to wash their car, fined. Two Oklahoma players ate too much at a banquet, have to donate $3.50 each to charity.
Posted on 2/28/14 at 10:36 am to secman12
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I know this to be 100% true based on numerous interactions and comments from many football personel through many years....I am sure other schols have this issue, but make no mistake Bo and Miriam are NOT friends of the football team or our other sports..at all..one bit...
do you understand what a compliance department is?
Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:02 pm to DontCare
do you understand what a compliance department is?
Yes, I do, but I know our group does not understand that their job includes working with the coaches and administrators to ensure that all parties are fairly presented as issues arise. Please, ask ANY person who has ever or currently works at LSU athletic department, any major sport, or TAF etc. and has had interaction with them. You will Hear a consistent message- they go out of their way to target football and a few other sports who they feel are “too big” for their own good. It is not part of their job to decide how to treat our big time sports; it is up to them the serve the best interest of all.
I am not going to cite specific examples as it is against policy of this Board and is private info anyway. I also do not pretend to know all or by think we should not be 100% careful to not break rules and when we do to take action and steps needed against those who break rules. We chose to be part of the NCAA and as much as many of their rules are stupid, they are what they are and as a member we should abide.
One final thought, If our compliance department knew that a scholarship athlete failed a drug test 6 weeks or so before the season is due to start in that sport, would it make sense to you that they would tell the coach/athlete and begin the step of addressing this “violation” at that time, or would you be ok with them telling no one until a week or so before the season started? If they did do this, why would they, what possible purpose could it serve other than to harm the athlete and the program? If he/she failed the test, tell the player and coach and hand out the punishment, don’t wait until just before the season so it becomes a much bigger issue for the player, coach, team and university. Just a hypothetical
Yes, I do, but I know our group does not understand that their job includes working with the coaches and administrators to ensure that all parties are fairly presented as issues arise. Please, ask ANY person who has ever or currently works at LSU athletic department, any major sport, or TAF etc. and has had interaction with them. You will Hear a consistent message- they go out of their way to target football and a few other sports who they feel are “too big” for their own good. It is not part of their job to decide how to treat our big time sports; it is up to them the serve the best interest of all.
I am not going to cite specific examples as it is against policy of this Board and is private info anyway. I also do not pretend to know all or by think we should not be 100% careful to not break rules and when we do to take action and steps needed against those who break rules. We chose to be part of the NCAA and as much as many of their rules are stupid, they are what they are and as a member we should abide.
One final thought, If our compliance department knew that a scholarship athlete failed a drug test 6 weeks or so before the season is due to start in that sport, would it make sense to you that they would tell the coach/athlete and begin the step of addressing this “violation” at that time, or would you be ok with them telling no one until a week or so before the season started? If they did do this, why would they, what possible purpose could it serve other than to harm the athlete and the program? If he/she failed the test, tell the player and coach and hand out the punishment, don’t wait until just before the season so it becomes a much bigger issue for the player, coach, team and university. Just a hypothetical
Posted on 2/28/14 at 2:30 pm to secman12
Get a real job. You suck at your part time self appointed one!
Posted on 2/28/14 at 3:01 pm to secman12
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It is not part of their job to decide how to treat our big time sports; it is up to them the serve the best interest of all.
yeah, so I was an athlete and later worked in the athletic department. All I can say is that your view is arrogant. It is a view many, if not most, people have, but it is still arrogant.
I understand why many people don't like them, after all they are there to self enforce the rules that are pushed by the NCAA. These NCAA rules are generally broad in nature which leaves room for different interpretations. On top of that, the NCAA (much like our fed government) picks rules in which to enforce and not enforce. With broad rules and the ncaa enforcement the way it is, it makes it very hard for all compliance departments.
What the compliance department does is take a RISK BASED approach in order to make sure that we are compliant. Meaning that they try to follow and enforce the rules on everyone, but some people are under the microscope more than others because it is more risky and we as a school have more to lose if something were to happen. Never having worked in compliance myself, I would assume that the major risks they are taking into consideration include 1. Revenue (the more money a sport brings in the more important it is to make sure everything is above the water) 2. Title IX compliance (this is because LSU has already in the past had a major problem with this) 3. Recruiting (because the rules are changing so much and violations happen so easily in this area). 4. Booster interaction (again this is one of the easiest ways to get a violation, and usually the sports that have the most booster involvement also have the most revenue generation, making it very risky).
I will say that LSU does error on the side of caution, which I think is a good thing. I think it should be a point of pride that we had not had a single major violations until 2011. The reason why LSU didn't get burned by it was because we self reported and put a strict penalty on ourselves. In comparison, look at OSU, they didn't self report when they found out and they didnt put in place strick penalties. NCAA came down on them hard.
Posted on 2/28/14 at 3:03 pm to tiger chaser
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Get a real job. You suck at your part time self appointed one!
Wat
Posted on 2/28/14 at 3:13 pm to secman12
So your assertation is Bo Bahnsen and Miriam Seeger intentionally single out, and attempt to harm, the sports that pay their salaries?
Posted on 2/28/14 at 3:20 pm to secman12
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- they go out of their way to target football and a few other sports who they feel are “too big” for their own good. It is not part of their job to decide how to treat our big time sports; it is up to them the serve the best interest of all.
it is absolutely their job to "target" the sports that would be most impacted by a lack of compliance
This post was edited on 2/28/14 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 2/28/14 at 3:24 pm to Joe
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Also, the NCAA is a joke.
ESPN, is now judge, jury and executioner.
Posted on 2/28/14 at 3:26 pm to TigerBait1127
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it is absolutely their job to "target" the sports that would be most impacted by a lack of compliance
Lsu compliance is a pain and detrimental to the program, therefore the athletic department, and therefore the school. As shown recently the NCAA is a powerless toothless organization and yet we treat them like the Spanish Inquisition.
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