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Jim Clyburn Says Requiring Black Candidates to Win 50% Dilutes the Black Vote

Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:30 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119492 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:30 am
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U.S. Rep. Jim Clyburn (D-SC6) has the unfortunate affliction of speech. In a recent article in The State newspaper, the 73 year old, seven-term congressman claims there are “barriers” in South Carolina that prevent black candidates from winning statewide office;

One of them, he said, is the state law that requires a candidate to win 50 percent plus one of the votes cast in a primary election. Often, that requirement forces black candidates into runoff elections that are harder to win, he said.

“That 50-percent-plus-one rule was put in in order to negate or minimize opportunity for African-Americans to win the primary,” he said. “It’s a very slick way to dilute the impact of the black vote.”

Clyburn said he wants S.C. law changed so a candidate only needs to get 40 percent of the vote when there are three or more candidates in a primary to win the nomination.


Should black or minority candidates get handicap points (like golf), yes or no?

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Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112776 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:34 am to
Lanny Guinear solved the problem. Give blacks five votes. I still can't believe that Bill Clinton removed his nomination of her for the Supreme Court when he left Joyclyn Elders as Surgeon General after she said:

"We need to shif money from cancer research to AIDS research. Cuz cancer comes when you're old and takin' out of Social Security. AIDS comes when you young and puttin' into Social Security."
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72400 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:35 am to


I have nothing else to say.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36533 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:36 am to
If a minority candidate receives the majority of the minority; he should be elected.

That would be the fair thing to do don't you think?

Look at our history, has a minority candidate ever gotten less than the majority of votes and still won?? No, and that's not fair.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:39 am to
quote:

Should black or minority candidates get handicap points (like golf), yes or no?

He just wants the law changed so that you only need a plurality instead of a majority in the primary. This is pretty common in many places in the country, so I see his point.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:42 am to
I think something should be done so that I, as a balding man, am represented.
Posted by MagicCityBlazer
Member since Nov 2010
3686 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:43 am to
First to a majority voting is a terrible system, however diluting the black vote isn't one of the reasons it is terrible.

It dilutes everyone's vote. Multiple voting makes sense but the D's and R's don't want to threaten their monopoly.
Posted by DrunkenStuporMan
The Mothership
Member since Dec 2012
5855 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

“That 50-percent-plus-one rule was put in in order to negate or minimize opportunity for African-Americans to win the primary,” he said. “It’s a very slick way to dilute the impact of the black vote.”

Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124667 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 12:07 pm to
quote:


“That 50-percent-plus-one rule was put in in order to negate or minimize opportunity for African-Americans to win the primary,” he said. “It’s a very slick way to dilute the impact of the black vote.”
Racist Democrats!
SC should absolutely allow Dems to declare a primary winner with only 40% of the vote. Heck, drop it to 35%, or less . . . and then comes November
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 12:07 pm to
Clyburn would never be in Washington without his gerrymandered district.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 12:19 pm to
Affirmative Action voting. Jesse is going to pissed he didn't think of this in the 80's
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

“That 50-percent-plus-one rule was put in in order to negate or minimize opportunity for African-Americans to win the primary,” he said. “It’s a very slick way to dilute the impact of the black vote.”

Is this true? what is the history of it?

Or are we just going with assuming all things are "fair" because they are.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25445 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 1:06 pm to
So requiring the majority of votes is a dilution of black voting power? Can someone please explain to me how requiring 50%+1 is racist?

If someone is worried that the black candidate won't make the runoff because there are too many black candidates on the ballot, then please explain why black candidates should be relieved of the burden of having to appeal to voters outside the black community.
This post was edited on 2/24/14 at 1:34 pm
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 1:28 pm to
Ignorant as frick people go the SC to grow up, live there for a few years and you will grasp the concept that the "Civil Rights Act" hasn't been made into law yet. The stars and bars are on the bumpers and windows of cars and displayed proudly. As to his idea the elections for statewide elections are for a handful of positions(governor, lt. governor and US Senator stand out the most in my experience while there.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53959 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:16 pm to
Might as well give them the handicap, they don't have to score as well as whites at anything else they do.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20841 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:49 pm to
Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
4577 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 6:29 am to
quote:

One of them, he said, is the state law that requires a candidate to win 50 percent plus one of the votes cast in a primary election. Often, that requirement forces black candidates into runoff elections that are harder to win, he said.


$1000 cyber dollars says this law was passed by Democrats.

I wonder what Clyburn would say about removing any party affiliation details from a ballot?
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