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Is there anyone here who supports fiat curreny/the Federal Reserve?
Posted on 2/13/14 at 7:44 am
Posted on 2/13/14 at 7:44 am
I think that a lot of the economic problems we are facing are directly related to fiat currency and the federal resevere but I am wondering if anyone here thinks that fiat currency is a good thing
I know Obama drones, Krugman lackeys and liberals will think its a good thing but we already know they are economic illiterates
Any conservatives think its a good idea
I know Obama drones, Krugman lackeys and liberals will think its a good thing but we already know they are economic illiterates
Any conservatives think its a good idea
Posted on 2/13/14 at 7:46 am to goldennugget
quote:As opposed to what? Carrying around gold bars?
Any conservatives think its a good idea
Posted on 2/13/14 at 8:01 am to goldennugget
I really don't know enough to challenge what they do. But I think they are doing well enough.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 8:09 am to goldennugget
Well, GN...if you lost your job and knew it wasn't coming back and all you had left was your credit card...and you and your family were hungry...would you max it out for essentials?
They day they shut down the printing...our asses are mud! We won't be typing on this computer.
They day they shut down the printing...our asses are mud! We won't be typing on this computer.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 8:15 am to goldennugget
So 90% of economists are economic illiterates?
Up is down
Up is down
Posted on 2/13/14 at 8:28 am to goldennugget
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I know Obama drones, Krugman lackeys and liberals will think its a good thing but we already know they are economic illiterates
I don't think it's possible to casty this enough.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 8:48 am to goldennugget
I was going to chime in but see that Russian and Benny already have this covered.
OP, any time you decide you want to get rid of your worthless dollars just send me what you have.
OP, any time you decide you want to get rid of your worthless dollars just send me what you have.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 8:56 am to goldennugget
quote:
I am wondering if anyone here thinks that fiat currency is a good thing
Not me.
Constitutional Money
Posted on 2/13/14 at 8:59 am to goldennugget
quote:
I think that a lot of the economic problems we are facing are directly related to fiat currency and the federal resevere but I am wondering if anyone here thinks that fiat currency is a good thing
I know where you are coming from, but I agree with Russian and Benny: There's no real alternative that works in a practical setting.
If you re-phrased your question to read something to the effect of: "Has the Federal Reserve Bank become way too connected to Washington and have they strayed from their original goals?" I would agree, but the US economy can't function without a fiat currency.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:04 am to goldennugget
quote:
Is there anyone here who supports fiat curreny/the Federal Reserve?
Obama will QE us into recovery!
Forward!
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:25 am to goldennugget
I'm against the "hidden tax" and inflation that a monetary system based on fiat money creates. It's a scam.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:27 am to goldennugget
This isn't a left/right issue. Asking if I'm for the Federal Reserve is like asking if I'm for bridges, highways, and rails. The Fed is a necessary component of the global economic infrastructure. And even if you ask if we never should have started the Fed in the first place, that's an entirely different question than asking if we should unilaterally shut down our central bank today.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:38 am to goldennugget
quote:
Is there anyone here who supports fiat curreny/the Federal Reserve?
Me.
quote:
I think that a lot of the economic problems we are facing are directly related to fiat currency and the federal resevere
The latter is arguable, the former is just not true.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:18 pm to goldennugget
quote:
I think that a lot of the economic problems we are facing are directly related to fiat currency and the federal resevere but I am wondering if anyone here thinks that fiat currency is a good thing
Nothing is wrong with a fiat currency it actually economizes the use of a commodity, you can gain interest from banks issuing the currency etc. The problem comes into play when you when have a monopoly issuing the currency as opposed to competing firms.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:28 pm to goldennugget
I can't believe Wiki hasn't showed up in this thread yet.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 4:28 pm to goldennugget
The FED is essentially a private multi national corporation masquerading as an entity of the US government.
We have the power to create currency in our treasury, without the burden of interest.
With the FED we have the burden of interest.
It's a ponzi scheme.
We have the power to create currency in our treasury, without the burden of interest.
With the FED we have the burden of interest.
It's a ponzi scheme.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:04 pm to goldennugget
I would prefer the gold standard under Bretton Wood to what we have today BUT like Ron Paul and Milton Freidman I would prefer the dollar stand as a free trading commodity on it's on.
I don't think we have to have or necessarily need the Fed.
Without the Fed essentially fixing the price of dollars by setting discount rates that deposits trade for between banks we are not allowing the dollar to trade freely. If deposits were traded in unregulated auctions we would not need to peg the dollar to gold. It would be a commodity itself and it's value easy to understand relative to other commodities.
Fed proponents will say the Fed is necessary to pump money when the economy slow and to reduce money supplies when inflation threatens. That would not be necessary if the dollar traded freely. The markets can react much faster than Yellen.
Just like other commodities periods of scarcity and periods of over abundance would correct themselves through markets.
In a free market I doubt we would have even had the banking crises of 07-08. First off those banks would not have been so leveraged. Secondly liquidity would not have been an issue as money could have been had if one was willing to pay for it.
Think about the oil embargoes under Carter and Nixon. It was not the embargo that created shortages. It was the price fixing of the federal government. Both Presidents capped gas prices and nobody wanted to bring it to market. Reagan ended this stupid policy and OPEC has never been able to create a US shortage since. If money was freely priced we would never have a shortage.
I don't think we have to have or necessarily need the Fed.
Without the Fed essentially fixing the price of dollars by setting discount rates that deposits trade for between banks we are not allowing the dollar to trade freely. If deposits were traded in unregulated auctions we would not need to peg the dollar to gold. It would be a commodity itself and it's value easy to understand relative to other commodities.
Fed proponents will say the Fed is necessary to pump money when the economy slow and to reduce money supplies when inflation threatens. That would not be necessary if the dollar traded freely. The markets can react much faster than Yellen.
Just like other commodities periods of scarcity and periods of over abundance would correct themselves through markets.
In a free market I doubt we would have even had the banking crises of 07-08. First off those banks would not have been so leveraged. Secondly liquidity would not have been an issue as money could have been had if one was willing to pay for it.
Think about the oil embargoes under Carter and Nixon. It was not the embargo that created shortages. It was the price fixing of the federal government. Both Presidents capped gas prices and nobody wanted to bring it to market. Reagan ended this stupid policy and OPEC has never been able to create a US shortage since. If money was freely priced we would never have a shortage.
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:59 pm to goldennugget
The main problem with the current monetary system is the violence that is needed to keep it going. The currency is backed by IRS thugs who demand you pay them in dollars and it is also backed by the guns of the military. But most economists overlook that and, yet, we're still expected to respect their views on the subject.
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 10:00 pm
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