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re: Things Libertarians need to realize...
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:00 am to bamafan1001
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:00 am to bamafan1001
What is ironic is when "Less Government" Republicans go to the polls to restrict who can get married. And now they don't wanna talk about "social issues" anymore. Those are the same people who gave the government that power in the first place.
True, fundamental conservatives shouldn't care who gets married.
True, fundamental conservatives shouldn't care who gets married.
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:03 am to Mickey Goldmill
Those two first responses are why Libertarians will never have a legitimate seat at the table and that makes me sad.
Get over yourselves
Get over yourselves
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:05 am to Mickey Goldmill
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True, fundamental conservatives shouldn't care who gets married.
They don't.
They also don't believe government should be able to impose itself on religious marriage. So, can you not see why they may not vote for somebody that is in favor of just blanket federal legalization of gay marriage?
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:05 am to Mickey Goldmill
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What is ironic is when "Less Government" Republicans go to the polls to restrict who can get married.
, you're missing the entire point here. That is becoming less and less as each day passes. 
Posted on 2/12/14 at 12:49 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:Marriage does not belong in the realm of government at all. No one should get perks or privileges doled out by the state. We all should be a minority of one - we all should have the same exact rights, and by rights I mean the traditional notion of negative rights.
What is ironic is when "Less Government" Republicans go to the polls to restrict who can get married. And now they don't wanna talk about "social issues" anymore. Those are the same people who gave the government that power in the first place.
Then you and I could recognize (or not) any unions we want to as "Marriages" and the state would be powerless to force either of us to recognize anything.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:01 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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What is ironic is when "Less Government" Republicans go to the polls to restrict who can get married.
Other than California, what states have voted on gay marriage at the polls?
Posted on 2/12/14 at 2:23 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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What is ironic is when "Less Government" Republicans go to the polls to restrict who can get married.
Quick, someone explain to me how government involvement in and recognition of more types of "marriages" = less government.
While you are making your libertarian arguments for gay marriage, remember two things:
1 - Any 2, 12, or 100 people can already get married whenever and wherever they choose. This is (sort of) a free country. The question is whether we officially recognize anything other than traditional marriages.
2 - Traditional marriage has been recognized and rewarded (government recognition/reward, societal approbation, etc) for a REASON. It's not arbitrary, and it can't be replicated by two men.
If you are pro gay marriage but can't explain why traditional marriage was recognized and rewarded in the first place, then you are being thoughtless.
You should probably try to understand WHY government got into the "marriage game" before you tell them to get out of it.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 4:48 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:What is also ironic is the way "We are for the poor people/middle class" Democrats in the Senate posture mightily (and self-righteously) along those lines, but in 2012, the top three richest Senators were democrats, and that would be 4 of the top 5 richest also democrats. In fact, only 3 of the top 10 richest Senators were republicans. Hmmm.
What is ironic is when "Less Government" Republicans go to the polls to restrict who can get married.
This post was edited on 2/12/14 at 4:49 pm
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