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"Job Lock" ? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:43 am
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:43 am
How is it even possible for these Democrats to say this with a straight face? Has the American spirit of achievement disappeared completely?
Job Lock
And the sad part is, an ever growing sector of the population will ignorantly celebrate this as a good thing. I think we're doomed man. The downward spiral just grabbed another gear.
Job Lock
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House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi says the CBO report vindicates Obamacare, because "this was one of the goals. To give people life, a healthy life, liberty to pursue their happiness. And that liberty is to not be job-locked, but to follow their passion." Pelosi is particularly invested in this view. She's been mocked for years now for her repeated claims that Obamacare is an entrepreneurial bill because it would let Americans quit their jobs to, among other things, "write poetry."
I know I'm not alone in thinking that it was totally worth seizing a seventh of the U.S. economy, polarizing Washington, throwing millions of Americans' lives into turmoil and forcing millions of others to pay more in premiums and deductibles, while spending $1.2 trillion just so we could liberate the Job-Locked Poets! (Whoever seizes that as the name of your new band: You're welcome.)
Now everyone is taking a bow for freeing Americans from the shackles of employment. "People shouldn't have job-lock," Harry Reid declared this week. "We live in a country where there should be free agency. People can do what they want."
And the sad part is, an ever growing sector of the population will ignorantly celebrate this as a good thing. I think we're doomed man. The downward spiral just grabbed another gear.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:48 am to TygerTyger
Heard the perfect summation of the liberal mindset on the radio yesterday evening.
Liberals desire total freedom....from responsibility.
Liberals desire total freedom....from responsibility.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:49 am to TygerTyger
Not surprising. Didn't she say something like freelance poets and photographers now won't have to worry about making ends meet thanks to Obamacare (total paraphrase)??
eta: yep knew I wasn't crazy
eta: yep knew I wasn't crazy
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Think of an economy where people could be an artist or a photographer or a writer without worrying about keeping their day job in order to have health insurance.
-Nancy Pelosi
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 7:50 am
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:49 am to TygerTyger
There will be a special place in hell for Nancy.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:00 am to TygerTyger
You are being force fed a crazy suppository too big for your rectum to swallow without some complaints from it. That will require another pill to be swallowed. Good Luck!!
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:07 am to TygerTyger
As the saying goes:
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance,
baffle them with bullshite.
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance,
baffle them with bullshite.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:13 am to TygerTyger
i love when they try to establish the new catch phrases
however, the problem with their argument is that "job lock" is a function of government policies. if "job lock" is an issue, then they should have addressed the policies that lead to "job lock" and not create more government to create more perverse incentives
more government trying to fix the failures of government
however, the problem with their argument is that "job lock" is a function of government policies. if "job lock" is an issue, then they should have addressed the policies that lead to "job lock" and not create more government to create more perverse incentives
more government trying to fix the failures of government
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:19 am to Jbird
Her personal stance of being a Catholic and supporting abortion "rights" will earn her status besides Hitler and a few other notables. The judgement of sheep and goats is going to ne an eye opener when it happens.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:25 am to SlowFlowPro
These people are suffering from brain lock. Although tbh, Nancys job ain't that much harder or different than an unemployed poet.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:30 am to SlowFlowPro
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more government trying to fix the failures of government
Perfect synopsis of the 'progressive' agenda.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:41 am to TygerTyger
She's a delusional liberal progressive. Her dream could come to past in a futurist Star Trek-like world where technology has satisfied all needs save the top of Maslow's hierarchy. However, in the real world her philosophy amounts to a convenient delusional excuse for failed policies that relegate ignorant masses to a minimalist existence hoping against hope that the government dependents are placated enough that they don't rise up against their liberal plantation masters.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:43 am to Tiger4Ever
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Heard the perfect summation of the liberal mindset on the radio yesterday evening. Liberals desire total freedom....from responsibility.
Right for them. But, they want others to be responsible to pay for everything and do everything. They are the ultimate infants and they want to be taken care of from birth to death.
Someone has to be responsible and if you are not responsible for them, then you are evil.
Oh, as long as you don't tell them what to do. Just pay for everything.
Every Liberal is, in essence, an 18 year old college freshman at a Northeastern Ivy League college who has Daddy paying for everything while they take classes on Marxist-Feminist poetry and have sex with whoever they want with no consequences while they fight the man using Daddy's credit card. That is Liberalism in a nutshell and, for them, it is the essence of salvation. And, they want everyone to have the same experience and promote their "religion" with missionary zeal trying to convert the whole world.
It is disgusting.
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 8:46 am
Posted on 2/7/14 at 9:07 am to Tiger4Ever
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Liberals desire total freedom....from consequences.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 9:17 am to TygerTyger
it is true that employer-based insurance is an incredibly powerful incentive to work and to keep your current job, if your only other options are either no insurance or maybe medicaid.
that incentive has been weakened, and now we see an estimated reduction of ~2 million jobs (per CBO) over the next several years because of it.
that might be great news for an aspiring poet, but that doesn't make it good policy
that incentive has been weakened, and now we see an estimated reduction of ~2 million jobs (per CBO) over the next several years because of it.
that might be great news for an aspiring poet, but that doesn't make it good policy
Posted on 2/7/14 at 9:38 am to 90proofprofessional
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that incentive has been weakened, and now we see an estimated reduction of ~2 million jobs (per CBO) over the next several years because of it.
Try again.
That would be like saying 401k & retirement funds are bad because people will be able to retire early leading to the elimination of X millions of jobs.
People leaving the workforce because they can get their own insurance (or have saved for retirement) doesnt eliminate their job.
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 9:48 am
Posted on 2/7/14 at 9:42 am to 90proofprofessional
I'd like to have one of the resident Liberals justify this shite....
Posted on 2/7/14 at 9:50 am to BobBoucher
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Try again.
That would be like saying 401k & retirement funds are bad because people will be able to retire early leading to the elimination of X millions of jobs.
i didn't say employer-based health insurance was bad or good policy, only that it was incentive for current workers to remain where they are. and the CBO employment levels reference was in order to support that the incentive is a significant one and that removing it has meaningful effect
Posted on 2/7/14 at 9:54 am to 90proofprofessional
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only that it was incentive for current workers to remain where they are
this is true. the part of your post i was contesting was this:
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reduction of ~2 million jobs
Which is GOP spin.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 9:56 am to BobBoucher
if it's spin, it's CBO spin. not GOP.
and the number was more like 2.5million IIRC
and the number was more like 2.5million IIRC
Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:01 am to 90proofprofessional
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if it's spin, it's CBO spin. not GOP.
incorrect sir.
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The CBO was very clear about what this means: “The estimated reduction stems almost entirely from a net decline in the amount of labor workers choose to supply, rather than from a net drop in business’ demand for labor, so it will appear almost entirely as a reduction in labor force participation and in hours worked relative to what would have occurred otherwise rather than as an increase in unemployment.”
Here's another example of conservative spin:
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The conservative Washington Times, for instance, featured this headline: “Obamacare will push 2 million workers out of labor market.” That has the distinction of being not only untrue but also the very opposite of the truth. Workers are choosing to cut back hours -- not being pushed to do so.
Both parties do this... its no secret. you just gotta do a little work to understand the truth.
here's the link to the Yahoo aricle where i found this info. LINK
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 10:04 am
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