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re: UCLA has a LOT of guys outstanding

Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:00 pm to
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19345 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:00 pm to
I have a professional friend who lives in LA and is a big college football fan. I've brought him to quite a few LSU games over the yrs & he's always said that UCLA fans are nowhere near as passionate as SEC fans in general. In fact, they are known to more like the wine & cheese fans of Michigan, Stanford, etc. And he said that it is assumed that Mora will not be there long.
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
Sparta
Member since May 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

Ole Miss hasn't been anywhere near as successful as UCLA,
Please explain...
Posted by LSU 318 LSU
El Cerrito Place
Member since Jan 2011
4278 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

UCLA has a LOT of guys outstanding
...but they don't have any outstanding guys
Posted by jocvh
Las Vegas
Member since Dec 2011
337 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:21 pm to
POI: UCLA's student body is only 3.3% black, which is up from the reported 1% from 2010. From the student body the most common ethnicity is Asian at 36%. Roughly 28% is white and about 20% is hispanic.

If Chi, Davon, and Kenny go to UCLA maybe its not Mora but the asian women they're after.
Posted by evangelfan
LA
Member since Apr 2008
1054 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:43 pm to
UCLA has a totally different feel. It's campus is amazing, and impressive. I mean come on, your're basically talking about going to college in Beverly Hills. The student body does have a very low percentage of black population, however has a very strong ethnic appeal.

I think Mora Jr., may there to stay for awhile, as it is a good place to coach, plus he essentially reinvented himself there, and they've extended him.

The downside to kids not from there is it's an unfamiliar feel in more ways than one. The buildings out there are older, though nice. Alot of buildings out there have no a/c etc. It's a different feel, and it's not home.

With Kenny, it's going to come down to whether or not he feels like he can adjust to being in a totally different culture, along ways from home, or not. If he feels that for whatever reason, he needs to "get away" than we don't have a very good chance. If he feels like he wants to as he put it "be comfortable" and stay home than we have a great shot. It may come down to what's in his gut and how feels when he wakes up Wednesday morning. We will know for sure by 9:30 am.

I still feel he is no worse than 50/50.
Malachi is close to a lock, so that can't hurt.
Posted by Tiger 79
The Original Tiger 79
Member since Nov 2007
38054 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 1:07 pm to


Could be a reason

Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70932 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 1:15 pm to
LA is not that attractive TBH

It's no San Diego
Posted by sheeeeeit
Member since Sep 2013
1023 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

Please explain...


I guess I should have specified "recently". Most of these kids don't know/care about a team that hasn't been good in the last 5 years. UCLA's 2 season under Mora, they were 9-5 and then 10-3. In 2 years under Freeze, Ole Miss is 7-6 and 8-5.

Ole Miss would need a miracle to win the division. UCLA barely missed their conference championship game, and will be considered a top 2-3 team in the PAC-10 for the foreseeable future. Ole Miss had it's 2nd best season in the last 11 years and still finished 6th in the WEST.
Posted by PacWilly
Member since Jun 2010
554 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 1:20 pm to
I would never second guess a recruits decision to attend UCLA or any other school if his reasons are "the football program" in general, academics, location, etc. However, I think it is foolish for a recruit to choose a school solely because of a coach (e.g., Jim Mora Jr.).

In the end, that recruit better still be happy with their decision if the coach decided to leave the day after signing day.

To Kenny Young or anyone else, I'd say: "If Mora left today, would you still sign with UCLA?" If the answer is no, then you shouldn't sign with them to begin with.
Posted by Minden tiger
Minden,Louisiana
Member since Apr 2006
3189 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 1:42 pm to
didn't Les lose Cassius Marsh to UCLA?
Posted by Respublica88
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Nov 2011
3618 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 1:43 pm to
did les lose a california kid to a california school?

hmmmmmm
Posted by Minden tiger
Minden,Louisiana
Member since Apr 2006
3189 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 1:52 pm to
I was just responding to the guy who came on here saying Les has never lost a recruit to UCLA..facts are facts.
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 1:54 pm
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32987 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

Is Mora that attractive of a coach?


UCLA has always recruited some big named players. It's hasn't been on USC or Oregon's level and it hasn't translated to the field too much, but they have recruited well recently.
Posted by Mack
Member since Nov 2013
827 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 2:04 pm to


if football doesnt pan out, a degree from LSU doesnt come close to a degree from UCLA
Posted by GALSUtiger
Snellville, Georgia
Member since Aug 2006
778 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 2:13 pm to
I've always thought this is the biggest BS, maybe Harvard. If your a good student your ability will stand out no matter where your degree is from. I will say a large Alumni base helps, if there in the field your interested in.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39617 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 2:20 pm to
Starting median salaries

LSU $46,900
UCLA $52,600

Considering the cost of living in Cali would require an LSU guy earning $46,900 to earn an additional $9,496, the LSU degree gives its bearer an equivalent salary of $57,396 or about 10% more than the UCLA doofus. Now, how much more valuable is that UCLA degree?
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
42009 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 2:22 pm to
A degree from LSU will get you anywhere you want to be

Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

if football doesnt pan out, a degree from LSU doesnt come close to a degree from UCLA


Yes, UCLA is a better school than LSU, but how relevant is that to college football players from Louisiana? If LSU football doesn't pan out for a kid, an LSU degree and the "fame" of being a former football player will carry a lot of weight in Louisiana. Conversely, if a Louisiana kid goes out to California and doesn't pan out, who's going to bend over backwards to land him a job? UCLA fans aren't nearly as passionate about football as LSU fans, and the economy here is much healthier to go along with a grossly lower cost of living. Plus, I imagine L.A. has one of the highest transplant populations in the country, so it's not like there's just Bruins in hiring positions. Baton Rouge is a much smaller market with a higher percentage of folks that are born and raised in Louisiana that consequently love LSU football.

Now someone like Dupre that has connections in L.A. and aspirations of working in sports management/marketing/whatever will have a ton of options in California with an UCLA degree, but generally speaking I believe an LSU degree in Louisiana can offer a former athlete more than just about any other school.
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 2:26 pm
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
17946 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

quote:

if football doesnt pan out, a degree from LSU doesnt come close to a degree from UCLA
I've always thought this is the biggest BS
It is. I took my LSU degree to a top 10 Exec MBA program and it compared just fine to the others. That's probably because I went and had real experience first. The degree is just like a good resume, it just gets you in the door. And LSU's compares just fine to UCLA's; and even more so if you are in certain disciplines for which LSU is very well known, like engineering or internal audit.

Not to mention the cost of living factor mentioned.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32987 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

UCLA is a better school than LSU, but how relevant is that to college football players from Louisiana? If LSU football doesn't pan out for a kid, an LSU degree and the "fame" of being a former football player will carry a lot of weight in Louisiana. Conversely, if a Louisiana kid goes out to California and doesn't pan out, who's going to bend over backwards to land him a job? UCLA fans aren't nearly as passionate about football as LSU fans, and the economy here is much healthier to go along with a grossly lower cost of living.


What if Young doesn't want to be in Louisiana. I love my state, but it's not for everyone. If he wants to move away try living in Cali, that fine. And it's not like he's blackballed from coming back to Louisiana. Plenty of other people from Louisiana who have gone to school elsewhere come to this state for jobs.
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