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re: If you always wanted a 1911 but could only have one handgun for eternity.....
Posted on 1/27/14 at 1:41 pm to KingRanch
Posted on 1/27/14 at 1:41 pm to KingRanch
If I get a bigger gun, it will definitely be a 1911. The larger size is the only thing that doesn't make the 1911 a slam dunk for me, since I'd carry it sometimes. If I don't get one, it will be because I opted for something that I could easily carry anywhere.
So, stop talking about the other bigger guns. I ain't interdasted.
So, stop talking about the other bigger guns. I ain't interdasted.
This post was edited on 1/27/14 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 1/27/14 at 1:42 pm to SabiDojo
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I don't know what this board has against a .40 caliber handgun.
My biggest complaint with a .40 is that it isn't a 10mm. It's a fine round and all it just doesn't measure up to the 10.
If faced with a choice and could only have one i'd take a .40 over a 9mm though
Posted on 1/27/14 at 1:43 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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This CZ I just got will not be my last. Just a brilliant gun, I'm amazed they cost as low as they do.
It's crazy.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 1:59 pm to Teague
Glock 19. Best all around gun under $600. I am Team 1911 all the way but Glocks are indestructable, reliable, light, high capacity, relatively cheap, easy to clean and have great aftermarket support. I love the .45acp cartridge and my Colt 1911 but my Glock is my workhorse. I carry it to work everyday and dont mind if it takes a beating. If I put a scratch on my Colt 1911, a little piece of me dies on the inside.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 2:02 pm to BAMAisDIESEL09
This is my work horse/truck gun. It's been thrown around like crazy and there's plenty of character marks in her. I have a few that are safe queens but she ain't one of them.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 2:06 pm to SabiDojo
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I don't know what this board has against a .40 caliber handgun.
It doesn't perform any better than a good 9mm and cost a lot more to shoot.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 2:07 pm to KingRanch
Do you just shite bricks of gold?
Posted on 1/27/14 at 2:30 pm to bbvdd
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It doesn't perform any better than a good 9mm
Yes it does, if we're talking ft. pounds of energy
9mm is more popular for civilians because the recoil isn't as bad, but the 40 has more power
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cost a lot more to shoot
3 cents per round more on the low end (1.50 more for a box of 50), 40 ammo is very affordable
This post was edited on 1/27/14 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 1/27/14 at 2:52 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
I can buy +P ammo in a 9mm and get very close to the same ballistics as a .40.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 3:30 pm to KingRanch
Thats a sweet 1911 youve got there Ranch. Ive got a Colt Commander in SS that I love to shoot--its probably my most prized firearm. Gotta love a Colt
Posted on 1/27/14 at 3:39 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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9mm is more popular for civilians because the recoil isn't as bad, but the 40 has more power
The "power" difference is marginal.
In the grand scheme of things, with modern hollow point ammo, 9, 40, and 45 are all about the same. Will 1mm or 2mm in width make that big of a difference? I don't think it will, but if someone thinks it will then he or she should carry a 40 or a 45.
Will the extra bullet weight make a difference? Maybe... but 45 is considerably slower than 9mm. So if you take into account the heavier, slower 45 compared to the lighter, faster 9mm, the difference equals out. 40 S&W is the middle ground.
The difference in these rounds that is apparent is magazine capacity. I carry 9mm concealed because I get the most rounds possible. You can fit more 9mm in the same sized magazine. There's nothing wrong with carrying fewer rounds in a larger 40/45 caliber at all. It's just something to consider.
If you are forced to use FMJ ammo like the military is (but civilians should never use it for SD) then 45 would obviously be the best choice since it would make the biggest hole. When talking about expanding ammo, they're all about the same. It comes down to personal preference.
Now, when you get into the 10mm-357mag range, things change a bit because those have a very discernible difference in muzzle energy compared to your standard service calibers.
So, to sum up, carry what you practice with the most often. That will increase your chances of your fight or flight reactions saving your life one day.
And for the OP, if you want a gun that's fun to shoot and can also be carried some of the time, the SR1911 Commander would do fine with the right holster. Granted it is heavy, but it is also an extremely fun range gun. When shooting 45, nothing compares to the 1911.
The Shield will carry better but won't be as fun at the range. It will be more comfortable to carry though so there's a scale you have to weigh these options on.
So, for me, I'd probably get the 1911 since it almost fills the full size handgun role while also being slightly shorter. But if I wanted a dedicated carry gun, the Shield would be a better option.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 3:42 pm to bbvdd
As a mid range .40 yea, that's apples to oranges though. A hot +p 155 grain 40 round is going to hit harder than the hardest hitting 9mm available.
And yes, both will kill you dead, but comparitively speaking when talking about the ballistics on cheap-mid range- and top shelf ammo the 40 outperforms the 9mm when it comes to ft. pounds of energy at every step.
The tradeoff is fewer rounds and more recoil
And yes, both will kill you dead, but comparitively speaking when talking about the ballistics on cheap-mid range- and top shelf ammo the 40 outperforms the 9mm when it comes to ft. pounds of energy at every step.
The tradeoff is fewer rounds and more recoil
This post was edited on 1/27/14 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 1/27/14 at 3:58 pm to Teague
Teague, I have both a Glock 19 and a Ruger SR 1911. I trust my Glock to go bang every time that I squeeze the trigger. Real simple to operate, basically a revolver on steroids. I love my 1911, but unless you can invest in enough ammunition to become proficient with it under stress, then I would recommend a Glock 19 or an M & P 9 if you want a thumb safety. That 1911 will be waiting for you later. Believe me, that pistol that you buy now will not be your last.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 4:04 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Riseupfromtherubble
Bapple agrees with me therefore I win...
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 4:25 pm to Teague
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one handgun for eternity
S&W 686
Posted on 1/27/14 at 4:31 pm to SabiDojo
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I will say this: Of all my handguns, my Beretta Nano is one of my favorites. It really has surprised me.
How's the recoil on the Beretta Nano?
And I would go with the 1911.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 4:41 pm to Boudin Nacho
It really isn't bad at all. It's shocking, really.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 5:09 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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for eternity
Fewer moving parts
If we're getting technical.
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