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re: Credit Card Rewards and Points Discussion

Posted on 1/20/20 at 9:38 am to
Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 9:38 am to
Currently using the Chase Freedom Unlimited (1.5x pts) for my everyday spending card. Anything better?

I have the CSR and AMEX platinum so I stick to Chase and AMEX points.

Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39610 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 11:57 am to
There's an Amex Business card that gives 2x MR if you're interested
Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
3185 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:06 pm to
Blue Business Plus?

With Chase and AMEX points valued at 2.0 cents/point, this would be a no brainer.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39610 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:23 pm to
That's the one.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119537 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 6:20 pm to
So, I'm googling to determine how I want to proceed based upon the price increase for the CSR, and I stumbled upon this site, Infinite Card, which I guess the CSR is a part of.

It looks like it might have additional benefits for these cards, and it looks like you can book hotels thru it and get some benefits there. Do you have to book and do this thru this site, or are they part of your card regardless of how you book? Anyone use that site to book anything?
Posted by SuperflyLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 8:37 pm to
I've booked the Roosevelt with it a few times. The rates are a little higher, but I've had luck calling Visa Infinite Concierge directly and getting them to match the advertised non member rate. $100 towards a massage for the Mrs. And a few drinks with the $25 food credit for me. Breakfast is a crap shoot on the front desk with whether you get a continental or a full breakfast because I don't think its specified, but with a smile I can usually get a full voucher. Have never been upgraded but I don't have Hilton status. If you aren't averse to a weeknight stay, I've gotten Thursday nights with all the above mentioned benefits for $159. Makes a nice getaway.

I've also used it at the Waldorf outside of Disney. Probably the only reason I'm going to keep the CSR next year, the massage and Christmas lights make for a happy wife. Wish they had more hotels though.

Edit: You must book through the site (or by phone) in order to receive the benefits.
This post was edited on 1/22/20 at 8:39 pm
Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
3185 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 8:53 pm to
TPG values both Chase points and Amex points at 2.0 cents/point.

I logged into both rewards portals to book a hotel room in London and immediately noticed that Amex was 1.5 - 2x the amount of points compared to Chase. This was for the same dates and same hotels (checked 5+).

Is the value with Amex in point transfers to hotels? Airline miles?
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39610 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 12:50 pm to
My Amex experience is limited but I used them to transfer to ANA to book 2 Biz seats to Japan for 170k miles and $500. Earned pretty easily through 100k Plat signup and 50k Gold signup plus spend.

You could have booked this with Virgin Atlantic using UR or MR, and gotten a better rate on miles for first class (ANA was better for biz, though fees may be higher), but I had very specific dates and ANA opens up award seats 20 days earlier to it's own program. Plus 1st class seats for two was way slimmer than for one.

My buddy has gotten some good mileage out of using Avianca and used Virgin to book Delta to Europe using MR.

The only hotel transfer worth a damn is Chase Hyatt transfers.

I had about half a million UR and earn them fast so it was time I diversified.

Have unloaded about 250k of those on a week at the Grand Hyatt Kauai last month and booking Park Hyatt Kyoto and Suite at Hyatt Regency Tokyo. Wasn't sold on smaller room for PH Tokyo or Andaz.
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 12:54 pm
Posted by TheChiefHasArrived
Member since Dec 2011
686 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 7:00 am to
In my experience, Chase are easier to use and more flexible with the 1.5x on hotels and flights where the cash rate is cheaper than transferring to partners. Check the points rate of flight/hotel and then check the Chase Portal rate to see which is best value. Hyatt, Southwest, United are good transfer partners. AMEX is good for international flights primarily business class using their transfer partners ie ANA & Delta.
Posted by reb13
Member since May 2010
10905 posts
Posted on 2/1/20 at 8:50 am to
No one thinks we will see southwest offer up the companion pass promotion (I.e., spend $5k get companion pass) through their credit cards this year, do you?

About to pull the trigger on one.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 2/1/20 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

Hyatt Regency Tokyo.


I stay here for business, I've always thought the club rooms there were some of the best value Hyatt club rooms. They used to be like $200-250 but now are >$300

Also, marunouchi line subway has a stop in the basement + walk to Shinjuku station is a nice straight shot 5min.

Random but Lobby chandeliers there are incredible. I mean, i usually don't care about these things but they are next level
This post was edited on 2/1/20 at 12:52 pm
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39610 posts
Posted on 2/1/20 at 10:07 pm to
I've seen pics of those. Seemed huge.

The train lines were the selling point and thought it made the most sense with the kid that I could get a suite.

Hopefully it works out for what we're doing.
This post was edited on 2/1/20 at 10:14 pm
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80250 posts
Posted on 2/1/20 at 10:10 pm to
quote:

No one thinks we will see southwest offer up the companion pass promotion (I.e., spend $5k get companion pass) through their credit cards this year, do you?


Ive never seen this deal

But if they did it previously, I wouldn’t hold my breath as they upped Companion from 110k to 125k this year. They are beginning to clamp down on it.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119537 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 6:03 pm to
Got an email that my Delta Platinum AMEX is going from $195 to $250 a year.

Adding 3X on hotels
2X at Restaurants and grocery
Global Entry/Tsa Pre


Ugh.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80250 posts
Posted on 2/6/20 at 7:46 pm to
Closed my Amex Plat after 13 months today... couldn’t justify the 550 annual and I told them when Sapphire Reserve gives 50% bonus on using points for travel its just not great to use the Amex. He offered me 200 statement credit after 3k spend in 2 months, but I’ve already got 2 other cards to meet spends on in that time.

I wonder if Amex Plat will ever offer what the business card does and give 35% bonus on booking with points. Odd that they didn’t do this after Reserve came in with the 50% bonus.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39610 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 3:54 pm to
I'll probably hold the Plat because it looks like we will get an Escape lounge in the near term.

I'm still able to use the Airline credit and Uber credit which gets it close enough. Now that they have upped travel protection on it I actually use it on airfare now. Before I'd take the "loss" and use CSR to have that protection. We used the GE credit on my son this year.

But ya, if you're not using any of that extensively it's hard to justify. Gold is much better.
This post was edited on 2/7/20 at 3:55 pm
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35614 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 4:04 pm to
I have layovers in JFK and Mexico City (had 300k Aeromexico miles to use up) for several hours each on the way to Madrid in May. It looks like I'll be hitting Centurion lounges in both cities.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80250 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

But ya, if you're not using any of that extensively it's hard to justify. Gold is much better.


Looking back, I could have kept the plat, but with the CSR fee and then my other two burn fees all at the same time, it didn’t make sense...

They will offer a resign offer in the future and ill grab it again. Was able to slide another 100 on the airline credit before rolling out. So I actually ended up with 500 in airline credit with one fee

The gold and 4x restaurants is tempting...
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 4:38 pm to
quote:


The train lines were the selling point


I imagine most trains are in/out of Shinjuku station, it is easiest to walk from the hotel to the station. Don't take the subway 1 stop into Shinjuku station

Also, there is a 7Eleven in the basement if you need something quick. Keep in mind, their gas station prepared food is shockingly legit / clean (it is Japan)


Finally, if you are tired and want an easy restaurant, there should be a Tonkatsu place that's not bad over there. If you are looking for some non Japanese food, Al Dente right next door is great Italian. It sounds weird but Japan does American/Italian food better than what you find in many places in the US



quote:

made the most sense with the kid that I could get a suite.



Makes sense. They were doing renovations last year I believe and it may ahve been club/suites. If so, let me know how they look


quote:

I've seen pics of those. Seemed huge.


Extremely cool
This post was edited on 2/7/20 at 4:40 pm
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39610 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 6:00 pm to
Ya, according to my research there may be one or two places using the line in the basement makes sense. Otherwise it looks like using Shinjuku is the way to go.

I had read about that 7 Eleven for my purposes as well.

Probably do a little bar sightseeing after the kid goes to bed so if you know any a short walk/train ride away max I'd be interested. I've looked up a few already.
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