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Biggio and Bagwell
Posted on 1/8/14 at 8:05 am
Posted on 1/8/14 at 8:05 am
Hoping to see the Astros get their first two HOF's today. Took this from a Jayson Stark article on ESPN. Makes it hard to believe there's so many writers who haven't voted for these guys.
Craig Biggio
More doubles (668) than any right-handed hitter who ever lived. No kidding. … The only player in the past 100 years who can say he had a 50-double, 50-steal season. No kidding. … One of just three players in history who got 3,000 hits and spent most of his career at second base -- and neither of the other two (Eddie Collins, Nap Lajoie) has shown up in a box score for more than 80 years. … Made a gigantic impact as a power/speed/leadoff force at three premium positions (catcher/second base/center field). Still hard to believe he didn't get elected last year. But this time for sure. Right?
Jeff Bagwell
Whatever reasons people are finding not to vote for this guy, they obviously have nothing to do with the amazing career he had. Bagwell is still the only first baseman in the 400-Homer, 200-Steal Club. (And nobody else since World War II is even in the 400-100 Club.) … He's one of two first basemen in history to run off 12 straight seasons with an OPS-plus of 130 or better. The other? How 'bout Lou Gehrig. … And have you noticed he won pretty much every award you can win, other than maybe a Grammy? Owns an MVP, rookie of the year, Gold Glove, Silver Slugger and Sporting News player of the year. So Jeff Bagwell, my friends, is one of the four greatest first basemen of the live ball era. But he's still tainted, apparently, by suspicions of something or other.
In your opinion would these guys have been first ballot if they played in a NY, Boston, LA type market?
Craig Biggio
More doubles (668) than any right-handed hitter who ever lived. No kidding. … The only player in the past 100 years who can say he had a 50-double, 50-steal season. No kidding. … One of just three players in history who got 3,000 hits and spent most of his career at second base -- and neither of the other two (Eddie Collins, Nap Lajoie) has shown up in a box score for more than 80 years. … Made a gigantic impact as a power/speed/leadoff force at three premium positions (catcher/second base/center field). Still hard to believe he didn't get elected last year. But this time for sure. Right?
Jeff Bagwell
Whatever reasons people are finding not to vote for this guy, they obviously have nothing to do with the amazing career he had. Bagwell is still the only first baseman in the 400-Homer, 200-Steal Club. (And nobody else since World War II is even in the 400-100 Club.) … He's one of two first basemen in history to run off 12 straight seasons with an OPS-plus of 130 or better. The other? How 'bout Lou Gehrig. … And have you noticed he won pretty much every award you can win, other than maybe a Grammy? Owns an MVP, rookie of the year, Gold Glove, Silver Slugger and Sporting News player of the year. So Jeff Bagwell, my friends, is one of the four greatest first basemen of the live ball era. But he's still tainted, apparently, by suspicions of something or other.
In your opinion would these guys have been first ballot if they played in a NY, Boston, LA type market?
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Posted on 1/8/14 at 8:11 am to Aldo Raine
Is Carson banned...I am hoping to hear the story of how Biggio is a family friend and assured them he never used PEDs for the 100th time.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 8:11 am to Aldo Raine
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In your opinion would these guys have been first ballot if they played in a NY, Boston, LA type market?
Probably, but since they didn't they won't get in on the first ballot. I don't think either have a realistic shot.
ETA I am a retard. Biggio may get in...still have my doubts. Baseball writers are douchebags.
This post was edited on 1/8/14 at 8:15 am
Posted on 1/8/14 at 8:13 am to Aldo Raine
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In your opinion would these guys have been first ballot if they played in a NY, Boston, LA type market?
Sandberg & Rogers Hornsby weren't a 1st ballot at 2nd base and imo were better than Biggio. I am hoping he gets in this time.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 8:14 am to PortCityTiger24
Biggio got 68% of the vote last year, I think he may get in this year
Posted on 1/8/14 at 8:15 am to BCMCubs
quote:under normal circumstances maybe, but this year's ballot is loaded
Biggio got 68% of the vote last year, I think he may get in this year
Posted on 1/8/14 at 8:18 am to Aldo Raine
Hope the Killer Bee's get in 
Posted on 1/8/14 at 8:20 am to PortCityTiger24
If I was betting, I say Biggio gets in this year but Bagwell has to wait.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 8:23 am to brgfather129
Posted on 1/8/14 at 8:26 am to Aldo Raine
I think Biggio makes it, he was close.
Bagwell is not getting in, he's lumped in with those steroid guys
Bagwell is not getting in, he's lumped in with those steroid guys
Posted on 1/8/14 at 8:26 am to Aldo Raine
Bagwell will not get in, even though he should.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 8:43 am to TigerintheNO
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Sandberg & Rogers Hornsby weren't a 1st ballot at 2nd base and imo were better than Biggio. I am hoping he gets in this time.
Biggio had a better career than Sandberg. I think Biggio is the only guy in MLB history with 3000 hits, 200 HRs, and 400 steals (heard it in TV last night, would have to verify).
Posted on 1/8/14 at 8:46 am to TigerintheNO
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Sandberg & Rogers Hornsby weren't a 1st ballot at 2nd base and imo were better than Biggio
haaaaa
Posted on 1/8/14 at 9:02 am to Aldo Raine
Bidge gets in this year. My childhood hero will get left out for several more years, but that will make it that much sweeter when Bags finally makes it in.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 9:04 am to AstroTiger
Was hoping to see them go in together but I think Biggio is in, Bagwell has to wait.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 9:10 am to Aldo Raine
Biggio not making last year was a joke
Posted on 1/8/14 at 9:11 am to craigbiggio
Rooting for you buddy. 
Posted on 1/8/14 at 9:27 am to Aldo Raine
There's no wonder.
People think they're juicers..thus no vote.
People think they're juicers..thus no vote.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 9:30 am to Tiger Ryno
love the killer Bs
i think Biggio gets in but not bagpipes
i think Biggio gets in but not bagpipes
Posted on 1/8/14 at 9:43 am to nicholastiger
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I think Biggio makes it, he was close.
Yeah, the Astros need SOMETHING exciting to happen after the last couple of seasons
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