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Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:37 am to
Posted by TDTGodfather
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
6169 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:37 am to
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loved LSU football based on performance

do you know what a bandwagon fan is?

my guess is you're not an alum if your love for LSU is based on success. my brain doesn't even function that way.

if you just hop from team to team based on success then waht's the fun in that. suffering losses is what makes the wins truly enjoyable. well until now. i don't really enjoy wins anymore bc of our POS fan base but it doesn't mean i love LSU any less.

i guess credit given for coming around though.

welcome!

try not to frick it up.
Posted by JawjaTigah
On the Bandwagon
Member since Sep 2003
22564 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:46 am to
I am old enough to remember when Paul Dietzel's LSU won the national championship, even though I was only about 9 years old at the time. I remember my uncle and older cousin jumping up and down beside the radio as Billy Cannon ran his way into Tiger legend on Halloween Night. I remember Cholly Mac taking over when Dietzel left, and the Tigers losing heartbreakers and also those amazing wins. Texas, Arkansas, Notre Dame... (that one was a 0-3 loss, but what a game! The next week, LSU actually rose in the polls as a result); bowl invites and all that great stuff. Like how many times did we beat Tulane 62-0? Nelson Stokley (a precursor to Archie Manning's QB style) was electric. George Bevan. Alexander the Great. And Sammy Grezaffi, Tommy Casanova, and Bert Jones. Then the bottom fell out and we went through some rough decades before a new coach came in 2001 and wrote an entirely new chapter to LSU's story. He set the Tigers on a really upward course that was then picked up by Les Miles and maintained (sometimes even almost surpassed) with great success for quite a while. I've loved LSU and been a fan through it all.

How can you separate love from LSU from love for their performance and storied tradition? It's not an either/or. It's a both/and.

Which explains the levels of emotion directed at certain persons and coaches, relative to what might look like the start of a slide and performance failures. None of us want that to happen; we all love our Tigers too much.

It's just that some of us think it's time to change. And others don't.
Posted by Akit1
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2006
7719 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:54 am to
I'm a die hard. I'll support LSU through thick and thin. Sure it'll be more painful during the down years, but I'm a Tiger. Can't erase or change that. I'll hope for the best and yeah I'll be upset at times, but in the end I'll keep supporting them.
Posted by mcgwyergolf
Pensacola
Member since Mar 2013
114 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:59 am to
I graduated from Lsu in 1999, one of the worst years in recent memory. Hal Hunter was the interm head coach for the final game and I think we beat R Kansas. So I have been through some tough times. I far from a bandwagon fan. I have gone to every bowl game Lsu has played in since 1999 and tons of road games. My last 2 trips to Oxford have been brutal and that's enough to loose a lot of faith but after what I learned yesterday my love for Lsu runs a lot deeper than wins and looses.
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 11:01 am to
No i love LSU the same no matter what, but pointing out real concerns seems to be a sin on the rant.
Posted by TigerTreyjpg
Monroe, LA
Member since Jun 2008
5815 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 11:19 am to
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For those of us who hung in there during the 90's, there is only one answer to you question. Basing your support on performance only is fare weathered fandom.


Exactly. I love the fall more when the team performs well, but I don't love LSU less when they don't perform as expected. LSU could go 0 - 12 over the next 5 years in a row, and I would still get a chill up my spine when I hear those 4 notes, watch that band come down Victory Hill, and reminisce about all the times 21 year old young man made my life very happy.

I was very frustrated when Lou Tepper wasted the prolific offenses of 1998 and 1999.

I was very frustrated that it took undermanned Tennessee team's inability to count for us to beat them.

I've been very frustrated at Les Miles for his inability to manage game clocks, personnel, make adjustments, and let incompetent assistants keep their jobs for too long.

1/9, to me, is as puzzling as it is frustrating.

But I love LSU. I don't ever remember not loving LSU. I can't imagine not loving LSU. I'll always love them. They are my team.

Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
16031 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 11:24 am to
as an Alum, my love for LSU goes far beyond the athletic teams. I have always supported and will continue to support the teams. I've just come to the point that I don't really enjoy watching the football games anymore. Maybe it's having expectations too high, or maybe it's my opinions on the staff, and the attitude that the recent teams have had once they get down. I don't think it is really a matter of the final score, but the way the team plays. I can handle a loss just fine when it looks like the team did their best.

I do think it is easier to be an excited fan when your team is an underdog. I remember getting the football schedule every year and circling the teams I though we would beat, and thinking that if we got lucky, we'd win 8, maybe 9 games. I still tell myself that 10 win seasons are special, even though there is an extra game these days. Not meeting that expectation would be fine if we just are not as good as other teams. That's not the case these days, though, as very, very few schools can match the athletes LSU has. Certainly Ole Miss' 2nd and 3rd stringers aren't better than LSU's starters, but they damn sure looked like it in Oxford.

Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 11:33 am to
quote:

As my fiancé sometimes says: "I love you, but I don't like you very much right now."
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
90892 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 11:34 am to
quote:

I can tell you for a fact that until yesterday I loved LSU football based on performance and I was missing the boat. I think a lot us make the same mistake and I can tell you I won't do it again.



Welcome to the world of realistic, rational, and sane thought.
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
12040 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 11:55 am to
People easily forget that it's just a game, and it shouldn't have any impact on their lives (unless you're a player or coach).

Those that get so upset that they throw/break things, or let the outcome of a game dictate how the rest of their week will go have some sort of issues deep down inside.

Sure I wish LSU could win every game by eleventy billion points, and hold their opponents to negative yards every week, but none of that will ever happen, and win or lose the sun is gonna come up the next morning, and i'm gonna go on with my life.

The only thing I can control is whether I watch the games or not, and if it ever gets to a point where i'm miserable after a loss then I need to reevaluate my life and find something better to do on a Saturday night.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
77631 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

No. The walk from the Dome to my B&B late at night on 01/09/2012 made me realize that.



yeah no shite not to mention all the suffering we went through in the 90's yet still supported the tigers.
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25321 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 1:52 pm to
I am a bit ashamed to say that my mood is tied to the teams success. My mood, not my devotion or support. To me LSU football has always been about defensive power. Even in years the team lost multiple games, the most painful ones are when the D gets humiliated. It is worse when it is in TS. When we win I am in a good mood for days. But after those loses, I am still proud to walk out of the stadium, go to work, or talk with my friends still wearing LSU garb and supporting "my' team. The hair still stands up on my neck and I still get goose bumps with those four famous notes pregame. I watch every second of every LSU football game, usually twice. I stay in the stadium until the alma mater is played.



Why bother being a fair weather fan? You miss out on all of the gut wrenching close calls, the adrenaline rush of winning, and the crushing blow of defeat. If all you are is a fan of football go watch the pros.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
77886 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

Let me put it to you this way: I saw a big $60 LSU garbage can this morning at the Ace Hardware in The Woodlands.....thought seriously about buying it and still may.



I attended LSU during the last two Dinardo years. My love for LSU stays through good and bad. The only difference is I've matured to where I enjoy the wins and dislike the losses, but neither event takes over my life.

Besides, no program is good every single years. If we are 8-4, yeah that's disappointing but thats the way it goes sometimes. Try again next season.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
72090 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

For those of us who hung in there during the 90's, there is only one answer to you question. Basing your support on performance only is fare weathered fandom.


For people like me that lived oos during the 90s, there was no LSU on TV. Had to huddle up around the radio with my parents to listen to the games. We've come a ling way. And our current coach is a big reason for that.
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 2:20 pm to
Yes!
If not we would still have Curley Hallman. How many Butts were in the stadium during Curley's last season.
How many Butts were in the Arena during Trent's last season.
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
9547 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 2:47 pm to
I graduated from LSU so of course I love my tigers. I have many fond memories, one being football games when we weren't so good. While I enjoy them winning, I'm not crushed when they don't. So no, it's not about production.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6566 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

mcgwyergolf


Great post. Enlightening. Wish more fans would take this approach. I get mad as hell and bitch and moan with the best of them but in the end I still love my tigers and will defend them against anyone other team who talks smack. Again, great post.
Posted by LagdonCG
Member since Jul 2010
998 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 3:54 pm to
Hell

Do you see that scoreboard above the stadium. At the end of the game we either win or lose. This has nothing to do with your relationship with your wide.

Football is a contest with results. We do not pay Miles to lose.

You wife backing into a car is not a contest but an accident.

The thing that Miles and your wife have in common is they both have their head up their arse.
Posted by mcgwyergolf
Pensacola
Member since Mar 2013
114 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 5:27 pm to
Thanks for the responses! I have probably posted over a thousand times on this site but it won't show you that. I have been tossed more than an underage guy in tigerland. This is the first post where no one criticized my grammar or said something about my momma. I guess deep down we are all passionate and never wrong!
Posted by DIGGY
Member since Nov 2012
1767 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 5:38 pm to
Absolutely not!! And my love for LSU is NEVER based on a coach. That is why I will never be on the "he has earned two more years of mediocrity to righ the ship". You earn NOTHING from my university that gives you that right.
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