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Southern Miss Football
Posted on 10/20/13 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 10/20/13 at 1:47 pm
We are watching a historic moment in the history of major college football. Southern Miss is on track to do what was once thought impossible in the FBS: go two straight seasons without winning a single game.
But where does the blame truly fall? Is it mostly Larry Fedora's fault? The guy did go 12-2 in his final season as the head coach of the Golden Eagles. But did he leave anything in the cupboard for his successor, Ellis Johnson? Obviously not. Johnson went 0-12 in his one and only season with Southern Miss. But was the disastrous 2012 campaign mostly Johnson's fault? If so...then why haven't they seen any improvement under their new head coach?
Southern Miss was once a thorn in the sides of many of college football's major players. Heck...they shut out Alabama at Legion Field in 2000. Now they are a national punchline as it has been 18 tries since they last won a football game.
How did Southern Miss fall this far so fast?
But where does the blame truly fall? Is it mostly Larry Fedora's fault? The guy did go 12-2 in his final season as the head coach of the Golden Eagles. But did he leave anything in the cupboard for his successor, Ellis Johnson? Obviously not. Johnson went 0-12 in his one and only season with Southern Miss. But was the disastrous 2012 campaign mostly Johnson's fault? If so...then why haven't they seen any improvement under their new head coach?
Southern Miss was once a thorn in the sides of many of college football's major players. Heck...they shut out Alabama at Legion Field in 2000. Now they are a national punchline as it has been 18 tries since they last won a football game.
How did Southern Miss fall this far so fast?
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Posted on 10/20/13 at 1:50 pm to RollTide1987
Sweet, this topic has yet to been discussed.
Posted on 10/20/13 at 1:51 pm to RollTide1987
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How did Southern Miss fall this far so fast?
karma from the football gods
Posted on 10/20/13 at 1:51 pm to lsu31always
I've been wanting to hear your thoughts on this, but didn't want you to get pissed off.
Posted on 10/20/13 at 1:52 pm to RollTide1987
it truly is amazing what has happened to that football program. I think they had something like 10 straight bowl appearances. I'm from the burg and this makes me so happy. I wish my wave played them this year so I could rub it in the faces of all my mustard buzzard friends.
Posted on 10/20/13 at 1:59 pm to willowcrazy
you know Tulane would be the team that would lose to USM and break such a streak... no matter what CJ has done up to this point.
Posted on 10/20/13 at 2:01 pm to chalmetteowl
When you have c. 20 winning seasons in a row, and after ONE losing season you are financially broke, you've got huge problems and are fortunate you didn't completely fall apart long before now.
How they start winning again, I have no idea. They've lost all of their recruiting spots and niches. ULL and South Alabama are all over their once safe Alabama and Mississippi territories.
How they start winning again, I have no idea. They've lost all of their recruiting spots and niches. ULL and South Alabama are all over their once safe Alabama and Mississippi territories.
This post was edited on 10/20/13 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 10/20/13 at 2:06 pm to RollTide1987
The Mobile-Panhandle pipeline for USM has dried up.
Posted on 10/20/13 at 2:07 pm to Overbrook
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you know Tulane would be the team that would lose to USM and break such a streak... no matter what CJ has done up to this point.
No , no.....Tech would be the team to break that losing streak this year. We suck
Should be a truly awful game when SoMiss comes to Ruston in 2 weeks. Oh well....it does make me LMFAO though when I see how well Sonny Dykes is doing at Cal.
This post was edited on 10/20/13 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 10/20/13 at 2:16 pm to Tiguar
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The Mobile-Panhandle pipeline for USM has dried up.
Their smart and aware fans knew 3 years ago that USA getting into football was bad news.
Jags have a decent shot to win the sunbelt. You get the 2 big dogs at home.
I hope TU-USA expand their series.
I'd love to laugh at USM, after all the beatings they gave us, and their fans relishing in it. But, they look like they're at death's door, with no realistic cure, and I certainly don't want that for them.
This post was edited on 10/20/13 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 10/20/13 at 2:22 pm to NoBoBullDog
They could still win out and go to a bowl this season...
Posted on 10/20/13 at 2:28 pm to RollTide1987
Simple. No QB
2ndly, poor player development
2ndly, poor player development
Posted on 10/20/13 at 2:30 pm to Overbrook
I think recruiting is a big problem and will continue to be a problem. Southern Miss now has to compete with a bunch of young programs in the Southeast that it didn't have to worry about in the past, such as South Alabama, UAB, UCF, South Florida, FIU, FAU, Middle Tennessee State, Georgia State, UTSA, and Troy. It makes it harder for Southern Miss to be as dominant when these other schools all around them are picking off talent. They were beginning to lose their dominant stranglehold over C-USA under Bower. I think that Austin Davis almost single-handedly kept Southern Miss's head above water from 2008-11. Since then, things have gotten pretty rough.
This post was edited on 10/20/13 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 10/20/13 at 2:46 pm to Gmorgan4982
It's crazy to think that Southern Miss actually broke into the top 10 back in 2000.
Posted on 10/20/13 at 2:49 pm to Pathfinder
Nah, they got to #13 and then played Louisville at home and got blasted. I was at that game. 
ETA: #11 in the Coaches poll
ETA: #11 in the Coaches poll
This post was edited on 10/20/13 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 10/20/13 at 2:54 pm to Pathfinder
Even crazy Favre is not helping Southern Miss.. I could see Southern Miss being 0 - 25.. Just think MSU thought they would be good when they played them.
Posted on 10/20/13 at 3:09 pm to RollTide1987
I think most of the blame falls on EJ and the people who hired him. It seems like the players pretty much took a year off last year. No coaching or conditioning. But, I'm beginning to wonder if Monken and his staff are really any better.
Posted on 10/20/13 at 6:33 pm to Pathfinder
Football karma for how they treated Jeff bower
Posted on 10/20/13 at 6:42 pm to choupiquesushi
Yeah, that's probably it 
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.Posted on 10/20/13 at 6:44 pm to Gmorgan4982
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Southern Miss now has to compete with a bunch of young programs in the Southeast that it didn't have to worry about in the past, such as South Alabama, UAB, UCF, South Florida, FIU, FAU, Middle Tennessee State, Georgia State, UTSA, and Troy.
In Bower's first full season as HC, 1991, NONE of the programs you named were 1-A or FBS. In fact, several DIDN'T EVEN HAVE FOOTBALL TEAMS.
By the time they fired Bower in 2007, several of those schools had either recently moved up to FBS or were on the cusp. A couple hadn't quite started their programs, but the damage was done at that point.
There is a finite amount of FBS and borderline FBS talent that can be coached up or placed in the right system. The addition of 10 similar schools in the South really hurt schools like USM.
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