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re: T or F: Tampa would be 1st or 2nd in the NFC South if they had a top 20 NFL QB

Posted on 9/15/13 at 9:12 pm to
Posted by ZTiger87
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Posted on 9/15/13 at 9:12 pm to
Freeman was 2/2 for 38 yards on the last drive.
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
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Posted on 9/15/13 at 9:12 pm to
False. They lack discipline.
Posted by F machine
Member since Jun 2009
11886 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 9:15 pm to
I wouldn't doubt it but the coaching is a much bigger issue IMO. Tb defense played well, and a few times they did ok on offense. But it seems most times they did well some stupid penalty like illegal formation killed them. It seems the coaches aren't teaching the players the simplest things and its killing Tampa. I do agree freeman doesn't help matters though.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:09 pm to
possibly

Freeman is fricking horrible.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:10 pm to
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Jackson is no more than a number 2 WR.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:11 pm to
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Schiano is a bigger problem.

No he isn't.
Posted by 1ranter1
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:12 pm to
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I wouldnt say Mediocre at all. but hes not a #1 IMO


Well your opinion sucks IMO
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:13 pm to
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Schiano is a bigger problem.


This
This post was edited on 9/15/13 at 10:14 pm
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:13 pm to
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Like I said I dont think he is a #1 WR

Like everyone else said..... Don't be stupid
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:16 pm to
Freeman was really awesome in 2010 as a 22-year-old.

The fact that he's regressed so much is puzzling.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:17 pm to
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Tampa should be 2-0 and it isnt Freemans fault they arent.

As much his as anyone's
quote:

In the end he put them in position to win both games.

Not really

Both games <50%

And remind me of how many points the offense has scored....
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:19 pm to
They need a coach.

I thought Detroit was the most undisciplined team in the NFL until I saw TB today.

That comes from the top.. Schiano is a hot-headed, undisciplined douchebag.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:19 pm to
Freeman turns the ball over way too much to be a Top 20 QB. Going into today he had 100 Tds/Fumbles in his career.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:21 pm to
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Freeman was really awesome in 2010 as a 22-year-old.

The fact that he's regressed so much is puzzling.

He played sandlot ball, and improvised well. Somewhere along the line someone convinced him, or he convinced himself that he'd make a good pocket passer. He doesn't.

Never has been able to read a defense worth a shite. His accuracy sucks, and he's a whiny bitch.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:22 pm to
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Freeman turns the ball over way too much to be a Top 20 QB.

Tnis

He has so much wrong with him.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 9/15/13 at 11:35 pm to
True
Posted by LooseCannon22282
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Posted on 9/15/13 at 11:43 pm to
True.

quote:

Vincent Jackson is a mediocre enough WR to be good enough for them.


lol.

He isn't mediocre. He's a Top 15 WR in the league IMO.

They were a fringe playoff team last year but they had another losing streak that cost them their shot. Freeman gets a lot of blame and he should but Schiano is in over his head IMO.

This post was edited on 9/15/13 at 11:44 pm
Posted by Sophandros
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Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 9/16/13 at 5:42 am to
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Defender doesnt get penalty against the Jets Tampa Wins, kicker doesnt miss a kick today Tampa wins. Nice thread though.


Hartley missed a fg and Payton took points if the board at the end of the half. That's six points right there.
Posted by Moustache
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 8:31 am to
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Freeman was really awesome in 2010 as a 22-year-old.

The fact that he's regressed so much is puzzling.



There's been lots of one hit wonder rookies. Look at Vince Young and even Mark Sanchez to a lesser extent.

Freeman wasnt' REALLY awesome in 2010. he was merely better than expected and played well for his age. He hasn't continued that progression.
Posted by Moustache
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 8:31 am to
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That comes from the top.. Schiano is a hot-headed, undisciplined douchebag.



Hot heads are usually meticulous on details.

Maybe it's because the offense doesn't have a leader. Delay of game penalties, illegal formations many times fall on the QB for not being a good game manager.
This post was edited on 9/16/13 at 8:32 am
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