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re: I'm not buying all the Seahawks hype
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:58 pm to molsusports
Posted on 9/10/13 at 11:58 pm to molsusports
quote:
nonsense
SF looked like the best team in week 1
Saints beat a rival they usually play very well
Not going to argue too much here, I agree SF is the best team right now, but ATL is a better team than GB. The Saints win was every bit as impressive as the Niners win.
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Posted on 9/11/13 at 12:02 am to RemouladeSawce
quote:
and allowing only 7 points on the road against any team with a pulse is impressive.
that offense could very well be on life support in a few weeks with Shula calling the plays.
but you're right. It is impressive and they basically did the same thing to them last year holding them to 12 points.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 12:09 am to TulaneTigerFan
quote:
Seriously? I mean, really?
No absolutely, since it's the Seattle Seahawks, the only weather that those players are used to playing in is the Seattle climate.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 12:14 am to TMFS
You aren't the smartest knife in the drawer eh?
Even for players who don't live in this area, and many of them do, you don't think that training here all throughout the preseason then traveling to the south where there's a huge temp and humidity spike would have no impact? Not even a little? Did you watch the game?
eta: I never said that it was a huge impact on the game either. It's just another issue that compounds with the long road trip and early kickoff time.
This post was edited on 9/11/13 at 12:23 am
Posted on 9/11/13 at 12:15 am to benhamin5555
Posted this a couple of weeks ago when someone else said the same thing...
I like looking at advanced statistics and efficiency ratings to look at how teams perform so you can remove any bias and adjust for multiple factors.
As the 2nd youngest starters in the NFL last year LINK, Seattle was rated
#4 Defense
#4 Offense
#1 Overall
LINK
Seattle pretty much returned everybody from last year, but then added Cliff Avril, Michael Bennett, and then Percy Harvin about halfway through the season. A lot of the key players are still not even in their primes yet.
Also, I found this pretty amazing. After the training wheels were taken off of Wilson last year, he had the 6th best 2nd half of the season in modern NFL history LINK
He followed that up by putting up a 115.7 QB rating (320 yards and 75.8 completion %) on the road against Carolina to start of this year. And Seattle had one of the best rushing attacks last year and returned everyone from that as well.
I like looking at advanced statistics and efficiency ratings to look at how teams perform so you can remove any bias and adjust for multiple factors.
As the 2nd youngest starters in the NFL last year LINK, Seattle was rated
#4 Defense
#4 Offense
#1 Overall
LINK
Seattle pretty much returned everybody from last year, but then added Cliff Avril, Michael Bennett, and then Percy Harvin about halfway through the season. A lot of the key players are still not even in their primes yet.
Also, I found this pretty amazing. After the training wheels were taken off of Wilson last year, he had the 6th best 2nd half of the season in modern NFL history LINK
He followed that up by putting up a 115.7 QB rating (320 yards and 75.8 completion %) on the road against Carolina to start of this year. And Seattle had one of the best rushing attacks last year and returned everyone from that as well.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 12:39 am to TDawg1313
Seattle is the only team on San Fransisco's level as far as pure team talent from top to bottom. And when it comes to those teams and the rest of the league, as much as I hate this phrase, it's not even close.
There is a significant gap between those two teams' overall talent level and everyone else. What Carroll and Harbaugh have done on the West Coast is simply insane. Seattle's D looked insane against Carolina, and Wilson gets better each game.
There is a significant gap between those two teams' overall talent level and everyone else. What Carroll and Harbaugh have done on the West Coast is simply insane. Seattle's D looked insane against Carolina, and Wilson gets better each game.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 12:44 am to benhamin5555
Huh?
They played us tough in frisco and friggin skull drug us in Sea last year.
This is a huge rivalry game and we are going in dinged up in the receiver corps. Luckily they have some injuries too otherwise their defense would match up very nice against our O.
This will be a grudge match and could go either way.
As far as the Carolina game. They traveled across country ,played early game and played a very game Carolina squad.
I hate them with a passion but will be nervous as frick Sunday night.
They played us tough in frisco and friggin skull drug us in Sea last year.
This is a huge rivalry game and we are going in dinged up in the receiver corps. Luckily they have some injuries too otherwise their defense would match up very nice against our O.
This will be a grudge match and could go either way.
As far as the Carolina game. They traveled across country ,played early game and played a very game Carolina squad.
I hate them with a passion but will be nervous as frick Sunday night.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 1:05 am to TulaneTigerFan
quote:
You aren't the smartest knife in the drawer eh?
At least intelligent enough to understand that because a team is from the Northwest, doesn't mean that a majority of their players didn't spend their lifetimes playing and training in the heat and humidity of the south. Furthermore that some of the best trained athletes in the world with the best training staff would have more issues than another team with the same resources is rather unintelligent.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 1:09 am to TMFS
Im not sure what you just said but to have so few posts while being a member so long , im not going to question its validity.
This post was edited on 9/11/13 at 1:10 am
Posted on 9/11/13 at 1:34 am to TMFS
quote:
TMFS
FFS
If the players are living in Seattle then they have to adjust to flying across the country and being in a different time zone. Vegas has known about the effect of travel on football game outcomes for decades
Posted on 9/11/13 at 1:41 am to Antiheroaz
Carolina front seven on D was impressive.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 1:48 am to molsusports
quote:
If the players are living in Seattle then they have to adjust to flying across the country and being in a different time zone. Vegas has known about the effect of travel on football game outcomes for decades
I am not debating the fact about teams that travel cross country tend to do poorer than teams that do not have to travel. I was simply pointing out how the heat and humidity argument against northern teams is not correct, considering a vast majority of the players have extensive experience playing in the south.
quote:
The players aren't used to that kind of heat and humidity either
Edit to add this is the statement that I originally made a comment about.
This post was edited on 9/11/13 at 1:51 am
Posted on 9/11/13 at 1:56 am to TMFS
Depends how long they have been in one climate as our bodies adjust and get used to our current environments.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:02 am to TDawg1313
is there a record of southern teams playing northern teams late in the season?
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:07 am to PurpleReignUW
quote:
Depends how long they have been in one climate as our bodies adjust and get used to our current environments.
I agree somewhat, but I would guess a majority of the Seattle professional athletes train more outside of Seattle than in. And if this was San Diego we were talking about heat and humidity wouldn't have been brought up, even though their training camp conditions would have been relatively similar.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 2:10 am to Deactived
quote:
is there a record of southern teams playing northern teams late in the season?
Not sure. This was the closest I could find in that article I linked...
I kept the PST traveling to EST in there for comparison. And the reason the numbers don't exactly match the chart I posted earlier was the teams that he included Arizona and Denver as part of the Western teams, but they aren't in the PST (Arizona is part of the time I think)
Records of Time Zone vs. Time Zone (2007-11)
HOME ROAD Games W L T Pct.
EST PST 59 44 15 0 0.746
PST EST 71 39 32 0 0.549
ETA: I realized that this didn't answer your question at all, but I figured that you were asking because the Saints travel to Seattle later this season, so this was the closest thing in there
This post was edited on 9/11/13 at 2:31 am
Posted on 9/11/13 at 4:52 am to TulaneTigerFan
i believe the seahawks are legit, but i can see how someone might be somewhat skeptical. doesn't make them a homer or bias.. bc i doubt saints fans have a problem acknowledging the 49ers as elite..
hawks have an easy schedule, but they could still be looking at 2-2 heading into indy (which could make for a good game)
we'll see how it all plays out. i'd like to see them win this weekend.
hawks have an easy schedule, but they could still be looking at 2-2 heading into indy (which could make for a good game)
we'll see how it all plays out. i'd like to see them win this weekend.
Posted on 9/11/13 at 5:12 am to benhamin5555
Posted on 9/11/13 at 5:42 am to benhamin5555
Terrible post is terrible.
Carolina is better than you give them credit for being and others have addressed the travel and kickoff issue. Playing at 10 am sucks.
Carolina is better than you give them credit for being and others have addressed the travel and kickoff issue. Playing at 10 am sucks.
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