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Thoughts on Gary Patterson and his coaching?
Posted on 9/2/13 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 9/2/13 at 9:53 pm
I know he's widely considered an elite coach coveted heavily by many negatigers on here. My impressions:
- Good coach, coaches toughness and resilience despite lesser talent. His team held up pretty well until late in the 4th when they finally gave in.
- Not as 'trick' oriented as I thought. Played it straight up. Maybe a bit of trickeration was warranted given the opponent
- Missed a trick by changing QBs too late.
- Very intense. I was worried for him with all the sweating.
- His players clearly like him and play with more intensity for him.
- Didn't like the pre-game comments about Hill especially given his QBs track record. Seemed a bit immature trying to get in Miles' head. Les didn't bite, proud of him for that.
Overall, if you flip coaches, I'd expect a similar result - LSU winning by a couple of scores. What coach Patterson does at TCU is what Miles did at Ok St which is to put big name opponents on the rails. In no way do I find him to be a huge upgrade over Miles, I'm sure many will disagree. I think Miles did very well and held his own in this game.
- Good coach, coaches toughness and resilience despite lesser talent. His team held up pretty well until late in the 4th when they finally gave in.
- Not as 'trick' oriented as I thought. Played it straight up. Maybe a bit of trickeration was warranted given the opponent
- Missed a trick by changing QBs too late.
- Very intense. I was worried for him with all the sweating.
- His players clearly like him and play with more intensity for him.
- Didn't like the pre-game comments about Hill especially given his QBs track record. Seemed a bit immature trying to get in Miles' head. Les didn't bite, proud of him for that.
Overall, if you flip coaches, I'd expect a similar result - LSU winning by a couple of scores. What coach Patterson does at TCU is what Miles did at Ok St which is to put big name opponents on the rails. In no way do I find him to be a huge upgrade over Miles, I'm sure many will disagree. I think Miles did very well and held his own in this game.
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Posted on 9/2/13 at 9:55 pm to siliconvalleytiger
He's a good coach, he's done a lot at TCU, but has he always acted like a little bitch?
I've never paid too much attention to him for other big TCU games, but he cried before and after this one.
I've never paid too much attention to him for other big TCU games, but he cried before and after this one.
Posted on 9/2/13 at 9:56 pm to siliconvalleytiger
Very conservative coach according to some in their fanbase.
Posted on 9/2/13 at 9:58 pm to siliconvalleytiger
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I was worried for him with all the sweating.
Nixon didn't sweat that much......
Posted on 9/2/13 at 9:58 pm to siliconvalleytiger
Considering Miles' winning % and the list of coaches he's beaten head to head, it's strange that LSU fans continue to expect Les to be outcoached.
It happens to every coach occasionally, but hasn't happened to Miles an inordinate amount of times.
It happens to every coach occasionally, but hasn't happened to Miles an inordinate amount of times.
Posted on 9/2/13 at 10:03 pm to siliconvalleytiger
should be at the top of our list if the job ever becomes available.
Posted on 9/2/13 at 10:56 pm to siliconvalleytiger
Putting Pachall back in for the third and long was a boneheaded move.
Posted on 9/2/13 at 11:06 pm to siliconvalleytiger
Good thoughts even if I don't totally agree...
His players looked very athletic but just smaller than LSU's. The biggest thing that I saw from his players was that they all had tons of heart and stood up to the Tigers like they expected to win that game.
Sure was a sweaty and intense guy but his tell was that he couldn't stfu.. ever. I first pinned him as a meth head but then I remembered that he is rich and pharmaceuticals rule the market today.... ADDERALL is his gameday thang baby!
A funny thought crossed my mind... after Blue looked ineffective and fumbled, I wondered if CGP might have gotten in Les' head which kept Hill off of the field. The thought did go away when I realized that the Les never planned to play Hill since he didn't need him to win that night anyway.
The end result is that I just don't see CGP going head to head with Saban like Les does in recruiting and on the field.
Les > CGP and most of the LSU fans who disagree most likely just don't like Les to begin with.
JMHO
His players looked very athletic but just smaller than LSU's. The biggest thing that I saw from his players was that they all had tons of heart and stood up to the Tigers like they expected to win that game.
Sure was a sweaty and intense guy but his tell was that he couldn't stfu.. ever. I first pinned him as a meth head but then I remembered that he is rich and pharmaceuticals rule the market today.... ADDERALL is his gameday thang baby!
A funny thought crossed my mind... after Blue looked ineffective and fumbled, I wondered if CGP might have gotten in Les' head which kept Hill off of the field. The thought did go away when I realized that the Les never planned to play Hill since he didn't need him to win that night anyway.
The end result is that I just don't see CGP going head to head with Saban like Les does in recruiting and on the field.
Les > CGP and most of the LSU fans who disagree most likely just don't like Les to begin with.
JMHO
Posted on 9/2/13 at 11:11 pm to siliconvalleytiger
Gary and Les have coached in two very dissimilar contexts until recently, i.e., TCU in the Big12. So I don't think their careers invite comparisons.
That said, Patterson's work at TCU is very impressive. Should Les leave I would have no issues with him becoming our HC. TCU is usually among the nation's leaders in D (which I appreciate). Those who look at TCU's record last year and only know the surface story don't recognize what an incredible job of coaching he did.
I realize this is only anecdotal, but check out how well TCU played Utah in '08 and then compare that to how Utah kicked Bama/Saban's backside.
That said, Patterson's work at TCU is very impressive. Should Les leave I would have no issues with him becoming our HC. TCU is usually among the nation's leaders in D (which I appreciate). Those who look at TCU's record last year and only know the surface story don't recognize what an incredible job of coaching he did.
I realize this is only anecdotal, but check out how well TCU played Utah in '08 and then compare that to how Utah kicked Bama/Saban's backside.
Posted on 9/3/13 at 12:10 am to siliconvalleytiger
His run defense impressed me. Granted they stacked the box all night, but they played with impressive discipline and seemed to always be where they were supposed to be.
Posted on 9/3/13 at 12:45 am to siliconvalleytiger
TCU was the most talented team in the mac. Still in the top half of the big 12 in talent. They really have no excuses. Start beating some of the other texas schools, start getting closer to LSU in talent. 7-6 in the big 12 isnt going to cut it. We know they can beat wyoming on a regular basis.
I still think he is a very good coach, but wouldnt trade Miles for him. Hes not leaving TCU and Miles isnt leaving LSU, so it doesnt really matter.
Patterson played conservative, sweated like a pig(similar to miles clap). the team racked up 9 penalties and it should have been double digits. the offense didnt help out too much. He has had major off the field issues with players. Made him self look like a fool in front of the media. Pretty much sums up what people bash miles for. Yet they want patterson over him.
I still think he is a very good coach, but wouldnt trade Miles for him. Hes not leaving TCU and Miles isnt leaving LSU, so it doesnt really matter.
Patterson played conservative, sweated like a pig(similar to miles clap). the team racked up 9 penalties and it should have been double digits. the offense didnt help out too much. He has had major off the field issues with players. Made him self look like a fool in front of the media. Pretty much sums up what people bash miles for. Yet they want patterson over him.
This post was edited on 9/3/13 at 12:51 am
Posted on 9/3/13 at 12:52 am to siliconvalleytiger
I'm just glad he didn't put the quarterblack in until late!
Posted on 9/3/13 at 7:20 am to siliconvalleytiger
Intense coach, not sure if his personality can handle a high profile program. I can always gauge Miles' feelings towards a coach after he walks away after the mid field hand shake. Coach has this intense look and reaches for his cap after handshakes and game interviews. I'd give Patterson a 3 out of 5 stars on Les' respect for him. Les did not do a full cap reset, it was just kind of a start to and then walk away.
This post was edited on 9/3/13 at 7:21 am
Posted on 9/3/13 at 7:38 am to siliconvalleytiger
I honestly thought (Patterson) he made a great adjustment in the 2nd half. However, I also think he had no clue how well we were going to throw the ball either.
It's a wash. Miles and Patterson coached well, and personally, I think Miles did the better job.
What else is new? Miles usually does.
It's a wash. Miles and Patterson coached well, and personally, I think Miles did the better job.
What else is new? Miles usually does.
Posted on 9/3/13 at 7:52 am to siliconvalleytiger
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Very intense. I was worried for him with all the sweating
............and Les was wearing his traditional jacket, w/ not a drop of sweat rolling down his face!
This post was edited on 9/3/13 at 7:53 am
Posted on 9/3/13 at 8:17 am to siliconvalleytiger
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Very intense. I was worried for him with all the sweating.
agreed. I thought the dude was going to have a stroke
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