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re: Big difference between the two teams last night: Omaha experience
Posted on 6/17/13 at 11:00 am to Meauxjeaux
Posted on 6/17/13 at 11:00 am to Meauxjeaux
I think it really boils down to the depth of the fences. That was the big difference between the two teams last night. If the game was played in a normal stadium, the score is 6-2 LSU.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 11:01 am to Alt26
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UCLA's style of play translates to any ballpark, anytime. The conditions, demensions of the field, etc don't really matter. Not so with LSU.
The people saying things like this, clearly haven't followed LSU baseball at all until last night.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 11:02 am to MOT
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I think there is a good possibility it would be Rodon or Plutko.
I want NC State on Thursday...no way Rodon throws there. We won't lose to UCLA again.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 11:02 am to LSU316
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..If you are coaching them up you tell them not to change a thing?
Do you know for a fact they were told not to change a thing?
Posted on 6/17/13 at 11:03 am to Golfer
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I want NC State on Thursday
Best case scenario.
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We won't lose to UCLA again.
Would find it hard to believe if we did.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 11:05 am to LSUKNUT
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Hitting .380 and has eclipsed the program record for hits in a freshman season with 104.
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Leads LSU in runs (59), doubles (18), triples (7) and steals (16), to go along with 6 home runs and 52 RBIs.
Not sure what either of those have to do with him as a fielder... Bregman has been a solid shortstop and occasionally has highlight reel plays, but he's definitely made a few costly errors that make you scratch your head. He'sa freshman. He'll get better on D, not that he's a poor fielder by any means. He's just booted a few balls at times when we've really needed him to step up.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 11:06 am to BobBoucher
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true, but when we're in the bottom of the 8th and that damage had already been done, and we have the tying run on and no outs, you gotta bunt with a sinker-ball pitcher on the mound. Risk of double play is high. We showed bunt twice but when the count went 2-0 im guessing he got the green light to swing. That double play killed us.
This! Raph tried to pull a low outside pitch rather than taking ball three. He is the slowest runner in the lineup. Rule of thumb,you play to win on road and play to tie when home team. PM made a high risk gamble that cost LSU the game.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 11:08 am to LSUKNUT
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Nominee for the Brooks Wallace Award - Best shortstop in the country.
Hitting .380 and has eclipsed the program record for hits in a freshman season with 104.
First-team All-SEC.
National Freshman of the Year by both the NCBWA and Baseball America.
Leads LSU in runs (59), doubles (18), triples (7) and steals (16), to go along with 6 home runs and 52 RBIs.
Maybe if you'd have been watching him all year long you'd see how dumb that comment was. He's made amazing plays all year long.
So you avoided the hell out of that one huh! He won all of those awards b/c of his bat obviously. I think he is an OK fielder but his is only a freshman. He has caused us to not turn alot of double plays and made some huge errors this yr. There is no denying that but I blame the loss on the hitting not the errors. Had we just been able to put up 3 measely runs nobody would give a shite about the errors!
Posted on 6/17/13 at 11:10 am to upgrade
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Swinging at pitches you should lay off of and swinging for the fences is NOT the same thing
They knew what we would do, put their outfielders in the right spots, and we did nothing. They knew we would try to hit it over their heads or in the gap, put their guys 20 feet from the warning track, and we NEVER tried to drop anything in front of them. Our style was doomed in that ballpark unless they pulled a Louisville and put their CF 50 feet behind second base.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 11:11 am to lsutigers1992
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They knew what we would do, put their outfielders in the right spots, and we did nothing. They knew we would try to hit it over their heads or in the gap, put their guys 20 feet from the warning track, and we NEVER tried to drop anything in front of them. Our style was doomed in that ballpark unless they pulled a Louisville and put their CF 50 feet behind second base.
The stupidity today is amazing.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 11:17 am to PurpleAndGold86
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The stupidity today is amazing.
Why don't you explain what would have worked instead of smugly calling people stupid?
Posted on 6/17/13 at 11:21 am to Alt26
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UCLA's style of play translates to any ballpark, anytime. The conditions, demensions of the field, etc don't really matter. Not so with LSU. In 95% of college ballparks that's a 5-2, 6-2 game last night. Ibarra crused two that should have been HR's and Steveson hit another. It's just difficult to change the formula that has been so successful all year long right at the end of the season.
It's the difference between two equally good D's including pitching and one team believing in, and being consistently proficient, at small ball vs one that has a more traditional offense that struggled to bunt well all season. UCLA can scratch some runs in most any game by executing and pressuring the opponent's D, whereas LSU has no other option when the bats are delivering loud outs all night long. A few little things here and there and LSU wins. I still believe UCLA will be a very difficult opponent for any team in that park if UCLA's pitching holds up. Just sucked LSU drew them first.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 11:21 am to lsutigers1992
What you said was fricking stupid. We weren't just "trying to hit it over their heads and in the gaps"? What analysis leads you to believe that we were just trying to hit homeruns? The fact that we hit a lot of popups? That may have had more to do with their 11th round draft pick of a pitcher throwing high strikes - something that he has done ALL season long. Anyone who follows college baseball knew that was exactly what he was going to do. LSU practiced for it. They set up a pitching machine to throw chest high fastballs before the game.
Nothing. We lost. We could have not made those 2 errors, but this is baseball and that is going to happen. Plutko threw a good game and kept us off balance and we weren't able to get our hands on top of his high fastballs.
You spewing off about how they were just "swinging for fences and didn't do anything different" shows that you are stupid and don't watch baseball until the postseason.
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would have worked instead
Nothing. We lost. We could have not made those 2 errors, but this is baseball and that is going to happen. Plutko threw a good game and kept us off balance and we weren't able to get our hands on top of his high fastballs.
You spewing off about how they were just "swinging for fences and didn't do anything different" shows that you are stupid and don't watch baseball until the postseason.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 11:25 am to PurpleAndGold86
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[quote]Nothing. We lost. We could have not made those 2 errors, but this is baseball and that is going to happen. Plutko threw a good game and kept us off balance and we weren't able to get our hands on top of his high fastballs.
No way. The coaches were supposed to tell the players to hit the ball in front of the outfielders. Simple as that, nothing to it.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 11:26 am to MOT
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The coaches were supposed to tell the players to hit the ball in front of the outfielders. Simple as that, nothing to it.
If only they weren't so damn stubborn and would listen to coach.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 11:29 am to lsutigers1992
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The stupidity today is amazing.
Why don't you explain what would have worked instead of smugly calling people stupid?
He can't he is actually Javi Sanchez posing as an actual LSU fan
Posted on 6/17/13 at 11:34 am to MOT
No doubt we swung at lots of balls high in the zone and above the zone.
Many times hitters see those as mistakes or gifts and punish them.
Not just with home runs, but all over the field.
That didn't happen last night.
Might have had something to do with how good their pitcher was, just maybe.
Every time we face an ace pitcher and he keeps us low scoring and with few hits, people have to bring in the old "stop swinging for the fence.... why don't we try to hit singles?"
crap.
I'm sure none of our coaches or hitters thought of hitting singles last night.
Many times hitters see those as mistakes or gifts and punish them.
Not just with home runs, but all over the field.
That didn't happen last night.
Might have had something to do with how good their pitcher was, just maybe.
Every time we face an ace pitcher and he keeps us low scoring and with few hits, people have to bring in the old "stop swinging for the fence.... why don't we try to hit singles?"
crap.
I'm sure none of our coaches or hitters thought of hitting singles last night.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 11:40 am to upgrade
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No doubt we swung at lots of balls high in the zone and above the zone.
All they had to do was tell them to stop swinging at it, right?
I mean it isn't like hitters have chased pitches out of their hitting zone since the beginning of time or anything.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 11:43 am to MOT
Truer words have never been spoken.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 11:44 am to upgrade
CPM should have yelled at Katz for hitting that homerun.
He made all of our other hitters think they were going to hit two homers each.
He made all of our other hitters think they were going to hit two homers each.
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