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re: Much props to Jonathan Gray
Posted on 6/7/13 at 8:54 pm to lsutigers1992
Posted on 6/7/13 at 8:54 pm to lsutigers1992
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Too bad for him he faced one of them tonight.
No. Nola doesn't have near the stuff Gray has. Nola may have out pitched him tonight, but look at the difference in lineups. Ours is a much better lineup than OU's.
Not taking anything away from Nola, but this NOla>Gray crap lets me know who knows baseball and who does not.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 8:58 pm to Moustache
But he gave up 2 hits to Laird. Do you honestly believe Nola gives up hits to Laird? ANd hey he faces Big 12 competition, while Nola goes undefeated against not only the SEC.. but SUPER regional host Cal St.
Of course Gray has better stuff, but Nola just wins. Period. He is too as good! Nola can bare down with the game on the line. Gray didn't!
Of course Gray has better stuff, but Nola just wins. Period. He is too as good! Nola can bare down with the game on the line. Gray didn't!
This post was edited on 6/7/13 at 8:59 pm
Posted on 6/7/13 at 8:59 pm to Moustache
Dude has been throwing with PED help. frick that. Anyway Nola >>>> Gray
Posted on 6/7/13 at 9:00 pm to Moustache
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Not taking anything away from Nola, but this NOla>Gray crap lets me know who knows baseball and who does not.
says the guy suggesting we not pitch Nola tonight..
I love the elitist "you don't know baseball" attitude by you and some others. Get a grip, dude. Take a fricking nap and wake the frick up without being such a cynical know-it-all.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 9:04 pm to Moustache
I would argue that nola has better stuff...he doesn't need to throw 96 mph to sit um down...
Posted on 6/7/13 at 9:05 pm to Moustache
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No. Nola doesn't have near the stuff Gray has. Nola may have out pitched him tonight, but look at the difference in lineups. Ours is a much better lineup than OU's. Not taking anything away from Nola, but this NOla>Gray crap lets me know who knows baseball and who does not.
I don't know, stache, no doubt Gray has nasty stuff. But Nola is a different pitcher. Much more reliant on hitting his spots. Nola's not going to gas it by you.
When Nola is hitting his spots like he did tonight, I'd put him against any lineup in the country.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 9:08 pm to Moustache
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Not taking anything away from Nola, but this NOla>Gray crap lets me know who knows baseball and who does not.
yeah the guy that's 12-0 in a much better conference isn't on par with Gray
Posted on 6/7/13 at 9:21 pm to Moustache
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Moustache
I would have thought after that stupid fricking thread of yours this week, you'd have stayed your dumb fricking arse off the entire board for a while, much less this topic. I will give it up though, your fricking dumassery will not be stopped. It knows no bounds.
Posted on 6/7/13 at 9:48 pm to Moustache
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Not taking anything away from Nola, but this NOla>Gray crap lets me know who knows baseball and who does not.
You don't know that much about pitching yourself. I don't believe that Gray, good as he could be, had good control of his fastball this evening. Sure, he is a fine pitcher and a high draft choice, but he was way too dependent on his slider to get strikes both called and swinging. Also, regardless of what those commentators said, the strike zone was huge tonight. Both pitchers quickly adapted to it, but Nola was the better pitcher tonight. His fastball had late movement, and he had good command of both it and his curve. He was more economical with his pitches, and thus was able to complete the game without running out of gas. Gray ran out of gas! He threw a shitload of pitches. Also, the Tigers were able to adjust to him in the later innings. Oklahoma's idea of an adjustment was to get one more hit in the eighth, I believe. Nola was beginning to wear down, but he finished the game keeping the movement on his fastball. 90 mph is plenty major-league fast if pitches have late movement and the pitcher can hit his spots. Nola never really had to use his change-up this evening. Did you notice? His fastball and slider were more than OK could handle.
Nola is the better pitcher. 12-0...SEC...2 hit CG. You're the idiot, Moustache...a pompous one at that!
Geaux Tigers!!!!
Posted on 6/7/13 at 10:36 pm to Moustache
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Not taking anything away from Nola, but this NOla>Gray crap lets me know who knows baseball and who does not
C'mon man. Nola will be a high top 10 pick in his own right.
Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:19 am to Moustache
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No. Nola doesn't have near the stuff Gray has. Nola may have out pitched him tonight, but look at the difference in lineups. Ours is a much better lineup than OU's.
Then you didn't really watch or you assume speed is better than control. The thing that made Nola great last night was that he kept the ball down in the zone and could throw across the plate whenever he wanted. Nola has a lot more control control than gray. Gray is great pitcher but he relies on his speed to much. He needs better command of his fastball and slider and if he has a change up needs to use it more often. Gray is an incredible pitcher but with the stuff he has right now, he will be playing as a closer in the pros. The lack of command won't fly in the pros.
Also if you wanted to compare Nola's performance, think of Greg Maddox. He was great bc he was one of the most accurate pitchers in the game not one of the fastest.
This post was edited on 6/8/13 at 8:20 am
Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:55 am to Moustache
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but this NOla>Gray crap lets me know who knows baseball and who does not.
based on your other threads, we're already well aware of this...
This is the only time I've seen Gray, but Nola probably is a better 'pitcher' than him at the moment. It's easy to see Gray's upside, however. LSU hitters did him some favors as well, along with the dugout.
Posted on 6/8/13 at 9:19 am to Moustache
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Not taking anything away from Nola, but this NOla>Gray crap lets me know who knows baseball and who does not.
Yea it lets me know you don't know shite. There is more to pitching than just electric stuff. Greg Maddox had an average arm at best but was nails. Nola is not overpowering but knows how to pitch a game as well as anyone in college. That being said Gray does have a higher ceiling, but Nola out pitched him last night.
Posted on 6/8/13 at 9:38 am to Moustache
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Moustache
Idk about you but his Nola's sliders right here looked big league ready.
LINK
Also, the thing about Nola is; compared to other pitchers at his level (which sets him apart IMO) is that he rarely misses up. Everything is kept low.
This post was edited on 6/8/13 at 9:46 am
Posted on 6/8/13 at 10:25 am to Moustache
..the Rant knows who is idiots and who is not ...
Posted on 6/8/13 at 11:02 am to Moustache
Stuff is not everything in baseball that's like saying john rocker was better than Greg maddux simply because he threw harder. Location is much more important while pitching
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