re: The OFFICIAL 85th Annual Academy Award In-Game Thread *ARGO WINS BEST PICTURE!*

I'm in the belief that Phoenix was never going to beat DDL. It's just a better narrative to say he was the "front runner" before his comments.

So the interview was in October? I can understand why he was the frontrunner then because Lincoln wasn't screened for critics until the first weekend in November. The Master came out in September.

Still doesn't change the fact that DDL became the unquestioned frontrunner as soon as Lincoln was released in theaters.

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Still doesn't change the fact that DDL became the unquestioned frontrunner as soon as Lincoln was released in theaters.

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he was the unquestioned leader when that photo of him with beard eating lunch was released

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He essentially called the Oscars "bullshite" during an interview. Whatever chance he had at the Oscar was lost when that interview was published.

What Phoenix supporters forget is that Daniel Day-Lewis was already snatching up all of he end-of-the-year critic awards at this point. He was the clear frontrunner from the very beginning of the race.

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again completely inaccurate statements. the award season didn't even begin until a few months ago and after the October interview that was taken out of context. even with the interview Phoenix still won best lead actor at the London and Los Angeles critics awards.

Look….if Phoenix would have split the precursors with Day-Lewis and lost to him on Oscar night I might see the point of politics playing a role in Phoenix's loss. But Daniel Day-Lewis won the the majority of the critics circle awards, he won the Critics' Choice Award, he won the Golden Globe, he won the SAG, and he won the BAFTA. The only shot Phoenix took was at the Academy. You'd think at least one of those organizations would have awarded him Best Actor over Day-Lewis.

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Phoenix still won best lead actor at the London and Los Angeles critics awards.

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Two critics circles that go for the art house films all the time and who notoriously dislike Spielberg. There was literally no shock when he lost those two.

Reading this thread after the fact is hilarious.

-"Les Mis is totally winning BP, y'all. Why is this happening?"

-"OMG liberals liberals liberals liberals"

-"Your movie is crap! My movie is awesome!"

-"EW, Michelle Obama!"

-"Yay! Argo!"

-"Boo! Argo"

-Concluding with, " ".

You mad.

I understand you wanted Phoenix to win but to say DDL won on pure politics is just bull crap. Phoenix only knocked the Oscars and yet got shutout at every major award. Clearly a few people thought Day-Lewis' performance to be genuinely better than Phoenix's.

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Another forgettable film wins BP because of the demographically fragmented voting pool and the fact that they have "good art" awards to begin with.

As long as they use the BP and other categories as a marketing tool, things like this will happen every year.

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This is nonsensical. Argo won the Golden Globe, PGA, and Critic's Choice awards. It went up against Lincoln which is a film centered on a man who is widely considered the greatest president ever. Politics and such didn't play into the win. Argo was spectacular. The only movie that I thought was in the same ballpark was ZDT, and frankly, that movie dragged a bit. Quit with the hate on Ben Affleck.