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You're starting a franchise. Choose one: Prime LeBron or Prime Shaq
Posted on 2/15/13 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 2/15/13 at 5:46 pm
Here's what Shaq did during his three NBA Finals wins with the Lakers:
Here's what LeBron did during his first NBA Finals win:
And LeBron will obviously add to those numbers. theunkownknight, feel free to chime in.
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2000 -- Shaquille O'Neal, L.A. Lakers
Averaged 38.0 points, 16.7 rebounds and 2.67 blocks to lead the Lakers to a 4-2 victory over the Indiana Pacers and the franchise’s first NBA Championship since 1988. O’Neal’s best Finals performances came at the Staples Center with 43 points, 19 rebounds in Game #1, 40 points, 24 rebounds in Game #2 and 41 points, 12 rebounds in Game #6.
2001 -- Shaquille O'Neal, L.A. Lakers
Averaged 33.0 points, 15.6 rebounds and 3.40 blocks to lead the Lakers to a 4-1victory over the Philadelphia 76ers and the franchise’s second consecutive NBA Championship. O’Neal’s best Finals performances came at the Staples Center with 44 points, 20 rebounds and five assists in Game #1, 28 points, 20 rebounds and nine assists in Game #2 and 34 points, 14 rebounds in Game #4.
2002 -- Shaquille O'Neal, L.A. Lakers
Averaged 36.3 points, 12.3 rebounds and 2.75 blocks to lead the Lakers to a sweep of the New Jersey Nets and the franchise’s third consecutive NBA Championship. O’Neal’s best Finals performances came at the Staples Center with 36 points, 16 rebounds and four blocks in Game #1, 40 points, 12 rebounds and eight assists in Game #2, 35 points, 11 rebounds and four blocks in Game #3.
Here's what LeBron did during his first NBA Finals win:
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James averaged 28.6 points, 10.2 rebounds and 7.4 assists in more than 44 minutes per game over the course of the five-game series victory. He made 51 of 108 field-goal attempts (47.2 percent) and 38 of 46 free throws (82.6 percent). After posting a triple-double in the Game 5 win — 26 points (9-for-19 shooting), 13 assists, 11 rebounds
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In the title-clinching Game 5 triumph, James again went for 26 along with 11 rebounds and 13 assists. In every game in this series, he scored more points than he had in any game during his previous trips to the Finals. Similarly, he's produced career Finals bests in rebounds and assists, too.
And LeBron will obviously add to those numbers. theunkownknight, feel free to chime in.
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Posted on 2/15/13 at 5:47 pm to mattz1122
Shaq. Prime Shaq was literally unstoppable.
Posted on 2/15/13 at 5:48 pm to mattz1122
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Prime Shaq
The drop off at the center position is the greatest.
Posted on 2/15/13 at 5:48 pm to mattz1122
Shaq, though I'd consider myself a blessed GM to be starting out with either of them
Posted on 2/15/13 at 5:48 pm to mattz1122
Shaq without a doubt. The other starting 4 could have skip Bayless talent and there isn't a center in the league that will stop him.
Posted on 2/15/13 at 5:49 pm to mattz1122
Shaq all day
Posted on 2/15/13 at 5:50 pm to mattz1122
Shaq, but that doesn't mean Shaq is better, if that makes sense. He's just the most dominant player in the modern era. 
Posted on 2/15/13 at 5:50 pm to mattz1122
Lebron, only because with Shaq you still need another guy to get him the ball. Lebron got to the finals pretty much by himself, if Cleavland had just put decent talent around him they could've won a few titles.
Also since Shaq's career is now over, you can look back and see that his prime wasn't that long, Lebron will probably play at a high level for longer. I do agree that prime Shaq was unstoppable
Also since Shaq's career is now over, you can look back and see that his prime wasn't that long, Lebron will probably play at a high level for longer. I do agree that prime Shaq was unstoppable
Posted on 2/15/13 at 5:55 pm to mattz1122
too young to remember a lot of Shaq's heyday 
Posted on 2/15/13 at 5:55 pm to mattz1122
Prime Shaq. I would take him over anybody, really, but it depends on what you want. If I am building a team, I start with the Center Position.
Posted on 2/15/13 at 5:55 pm to mattz1122
Lebron in today's NBA.
Before zone defenses, definitely Shaq.
Zone defenses really hurt today's back to the basket players. You can triple team guys in the post now, while pre-zone you had to play Shaq 1-on-1 or come with a quick double team before that guy had to hurry back to his man or get called for illegal defense.
Before zone defenses, definitely Shaq.
Zone defenses really hurt today's back to the basket players. You can triple team guys in the post now, while pre-zone you had to play Shaq 1-on-1 or come with a quick double team before that guy had to hurry back to his man or get called for illegal defense.
This post was edited on 2/15/13 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 2/15/13 at 5:55 pm to mattz1122
No wrong answer but I'd probably take Shaq - to change my mind Lebron will have to remain unstoppable for a few more years
Posted on 2/15/13 at 5:55 pm to mattz1122
Always said if I were starting a franchise I'd take Magic. The all-around utility player who made everyone better to build around.
In this instance, I'd probably lean toward LeBron.
He dragged a pretty sorry Cavs team to the Finals and Eastern Conf - and all their other playoff series.
In this instance, I'd probably lean toward LeBron.
He dragged a pretty sorry Cavs team to the Finals and Eastern Conf - and all their other playoff series.
Posted on 2/15/13 at 5:58 pm to mattz1122
Shaq
Posted on 2/15/13 at 6:01 pm to mattz1122
LeBron still hasn't hit his prime yet, so when he does I'll let you know.
Posted on 2/15/13 at 6:04 pm to mattz1122
Shaq
Posted on 2/15/13 at 6:10 pm to mattz1122
Oh the good ole' prime Shaq days, Nothing more hilarious to watch him take 4 dribbles to back his man down and just dunk the shite out of him.
Posted on 2/15/13 at 6:28 pm to mattz1122
Shaq all day
Posted on 2/15/13 at 6:41 pm to mattz1122
Lebron for longevity and game closing reasons. I also think he'd be more likely to carry a bad franchise due to his passing.
Prime Shaq was ridiculous though
Prime Shaq was ridiculous though
Posted on 2/15/13 at 7:06 pm to mattz1122
shaq without adoubt. a big guy like that gives you rim protection, rebounds and scoring down low on the block. you build around those guys as they are hard to come by now as we see.
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