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Why did "Gladiator" work and "Troy" didnt?
Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:24 pm
Troy starring Brad Pitt and Eric Bana came on TV the other day. I remembered back to when this movie was first coming out...People thought it was going to be the next Gladiator (In terms of being a badass great movie that may even win Best Picture)
Instead, it turned out to be "meh"
I remember people saying it needed "Ridley Scott's touch"
Idk. What all went wrong with this movie? I know Orlando Bloom was a total fail in the movie. But it had a great cast and the source material is great as well.
Why was it so..."meh"
Instead, it turned out to be "meh"
I remember people saying it needed "Ridley Scott's touch"
Idk. What all went wrong with this movie? I know Orlando Bloom was a total fail in the movie. But it had a great cast and the source material is great as well.
Why was it so..."meh"
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Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:25 pm to Rittdog
I've always enjoyed Troy 
Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:35 pm to Rittdog
I've never been a fan of Troy. I don't know why. Maybe because Troy leans toward fantasy with Gladiator being more believable.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:36 pm to Rittdog
I loved Troy.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:38 pm to Rittdog
Both are bad movies, but Pitt's overacting made Troy a great unintentional comedy
Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:42 pm to Rittdog
Probably had something to do with this guy.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:42 pm to Rittdog
I like Troy...
I like Gladiator more but I like Troy.
I like Gladiator more but I like Troy.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:45 pm to Rittdog
Expectations
Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:46 pm to Rittdog
I liked Troy a lot
Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:49 pm to Rittdog
I enjoy Troy more than Gladiator.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:51 pm to Rittdog
it pissed off certain critics due to how it handled the source material (which is bullshite)
it was kind of hokey and pitt was not good in it. bana was excellent as usual, though
to an extent, achilles doesn't translate to modern society. he really was a whiney fricking bitch in the illiad. the attack on his honor doesn't translate to modern society, imho.
the production values/cinematography weren't as high as gladiator. i can give troy a pass somewhat because a typhoon completely wrecked their original locations/settings
it was kind of hokey and pitt was not good in it. bana was excellent as usual, though
to an extent, achilles doesn't translate to modern society. he really was a whiney fricking bitch in the illiad. the attack on his honor doesn't translate to modern society, imho.
the production values/cinematography weren't as high as gladiator. i can give troy a pass somewhat because a typhoon completely wrecked their original locations/settings
Posted on 1/27/13 at 1:52 pm to Rittdog
troy was good imo. not on gladiator's level though. contrary to a lot of people on the board gladiator is one of my all time favs
Posted on 1/27/13 at 2:18 pm to Rittdog
I think both movies are really good IMO
Posted on 1/27/13 at 2:28 pm to Rittdog
I think Troy could be done better. Like someone said, less shiny. Make Achilles more relatable. I don't know.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 4:36 pm to Rittdog
I like Troy. The unrated director's cut would have been awesome had they not changed the soundtrack. One of the only times Diane Kruger flashes her tits and her arse all at once.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 5:08 pm to Rittdog
Just cuz Gladiator is more beastly, doesn't mean Troy didn't work. It's decent.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 8:22 pm to Rittdog
Honestly I enjoyed Troy as much as Gladiator; 2 of my favorite rewatchable movies.
Posted on 1/27/13 at 8:37 pm to Rittdog
1. They sterilized Troy. Illiad was a great script, and they ignored it. So Achilles escapes death and helps the Trojans? No mention of the gods. No King Priam visiting Achilles disguised as a woman. No Cassandra. Ending was stupid.
2. Script was just plain better in Gladiator. You could actually pull for Crowe's character, who suffered. Not Achilles. He just wants glory. Removing his death made him less of a sympathetic character.
3. In Troy they kept talking about how epic the war would be but never actually got around to making the war epic. You would never know it was a ten year war from the movie, just lasted a few weeks or so.
Maximus was more believable when you study the Emperor Trajan. VEry good general, Spanish, there were quite a few similarities between their characters.
2. Script was just plain better in Gladiator. You could actually pull for Crowe's character, who suffered. Not Achilles. He just wants glory. Removing his death made him less of a sympathetic character.
3. In Troy they kept talking about how epic the war would be but never actually got around to making the war epic. You would never know it was a ten year war from the movie, just lasted a few weeks or so.
Maximus was more believable when you study the Emperor Trajan. VEry good general, Spanish, there were quite a few similarities between their characters.
This post was edited on 1/27/13 at 8:43 pm
Posted on 1/27/13 at 8:47 pm to Rittdog
I never watched Troy because it was released during a time when there were entirely too many war movies of the same kind being released. It was nauseating. Already had Gladiator, then there was the LOTR triology, then Troy, King Arthur, Kingdom of Heaven....... Mother of god.
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