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re: Official AR-15 thread
Posted on 7/26/13 at 5:28 pm to brass2mouth
Posted on 7/26/13 at 5:28 pm to brass2mouth
- A warrior should not have a favorite sword.
Posted on 7/26/13 at 5:43 pm to Soul Gleaux
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Soul Gleaux
I really like that style stock. The lower I was looking at came complete with Magpul MOE stock and grip for 299, but I rather the style you have. Gives the rifle a fuller more balanced look. The forearms are bulky and the MOE stock looks Not saying I wont buy the MOE version but I rather the Magpul ACS or something like yours.
Trying to keep the PSA complete lower stock and grip for around 300
This post was edited on 7/26/13 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 7/26/13 at 5:47 pm to HTownTigerFan
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Y'all really lumping Spikes in with DPMS?
I was lumping all sub $100 lower receivers together since they were being construed as cheap. But, yes I would say a forged spike's lower is just as good as a forged DPMS.
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For me it's about having something not a lot of others have. You can go pick up a spikes or DPMS anywhere. You don't see DDs, knights, LMT, OR A Larue etc around that much. I'm not a huge brand whore but I like having nice things. I probably don't need a new GMC and could get away with an old Chevy but frick it, I like nice shite.
Nothing wrong with that brother. My only qualm was with Carson advising a noob that Noveske lowers were inherently better than DPMS lowers. Insinuating that anything but a Noveske or DD is not quality. When in reality, for the most part, a lower is a lower is a lower (when refering to forged).
This post was edited on 7/26/13 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 7/26/13 at 6:34 pm to Propagandalf
I don't really have a dog in this fight, but mil-spec or any other spec. used to manufacture any kind of part is but a baseline. There can be very wide spectrums of quality between two parts that meet the same manufacturing spec.
That being said, I've never seen/heard anyone really explain the DPMS hate. I'm pretty new to the "modern sporting rifle" genre, so I can't personally vouch for any manufacturer over another. I wish there was a single, somewhat objective review of all the various manufacturers' products in terms of machining finish, dimensional tolerances, surface treatments, etc. ... in other words an objective summary of what might contribute to one manufacturer being better than another. But, opinions are like ... well, you know.
This coming from someone with a handful of Spike's lowers on the way!!! And, I'm thrilled they were sub-$100! It'll be a shame if they fall outta the boat.
That being said, I've never seen/heard anyone really explain the DPMS hate. I'm pretty new to the "modern sporting rifle" genre, so I can't personally vouch for any manufacturer over another. I wish there was a single, somewhat objective review of all the various manufacturers' products in terms of machining finish, dimensional tolerances, surface treatments, etc. ... in other words an objective summary of what might contribute to one manufacturer being better than another. But, opinions are like ... well, you know.
This coming from someone with a handful of Spike's lowers on the way!!! And, I'm thrilled they were sub-$100! It'll be a shame if they fall outta the boat.
Posted on 7/26/13 at 6:47 pm to homesicktiger
DPMS had quality issues when they joined into the AR market, like many companies that did when the AR platform was first introduced, and those problems with cheaper prices gave people their reasoning
But you are absolutely right about the broad scope of "milspec." In particular, the fit and spacing of high quality lowers is what sets them apart from the crowd, not just rollmarks and cosmetic features. Anyone who denies that is just regurgitating forum group think.
But you are absolutely right about the broad scope of "milspec." In particular, the fit and spacing of high quality lowers is what sets them apart from the crowd, not just rollmarks and cosmetic features. Anyone who denies that is just regurgitating forum group think.
Posted on 7/26/13 at 6:48 pm to Propagandalf
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My only qualm was with Carson advising a noob that Noveske lowers were inherently better than DPMS lowers. Insinuating that anything but a Noveske or DD is not quality. When in reality, for the most part, a lower is a lower is a lower (when refering to forged).
link to where I said one was better? All I said was get the quality lower. Looking back, I can see how it looks like I'm making an implication that DPMS is not quality, but I meant it as a brand with a reputation of high quality. DPMS has a shite rep. I've said many times on here that lower doesn't matter very much. Get the frick out of here with your bullshite attitude. Okie said he wanted a more desirable lower, so I recommended one.
And don't try and tell me that if you were offered a DPMS and and Noveske that you'd take the DPMS
This post was edited on 7/26/13 at 6:57 pm
Posted on 7/26/13 at 7:34 pm to Carson123987
I'll leave The Chart here. Nothing major, but differences nonetheless
This post was edited on 7/26/13 at 7:49 pm
Posted on 7/26/13 at 7:56 pm to Carson123987
that chart has to have been posted 8 times in this thread already
You should really update the OP with it
You should really update the OP with it
Posted on 7/26/13 at 7:58 pm to RATeamWannabe
I know, just a reminder
Posted on 7/26/13 at 8:12 pm to Carson123987
This has been entertaining.
Posted on 7/26/13 at 8:21 pm to LSUmakemewanna
Without going back and looking I am just going to go out on a limb and say the last 5-10 pages have been full of hate for TTT and mines new purchase.
It kill beer cans and hogs just fine, a free aim point is just fine to.
It kill beer cans and hogs just fine, a free aim point is just fine to.
Posted on 7/26/13 at 8:23 pm to CP3
Posted on 7/26/13 at 8:25 pm to GREENHEAD22
Didn't y'all get the PSA bargains of da week/month? Naw. I'm not knockin any of that.
I just got my 2 spikes lowers in this week. Now they'll just sit
I just got my 2 spikes lowers in this week. Now they'll just sit
Posted on 7/26/13 at 8:29 pm to LSUmakemewanna
Yes we did, picked mine up Wed.
Posted on 7/26/13 at 8:37 pm to GREENHEAD22
Hell, just went to there website and I already have 100 in the checkout basket.
Posted on 7/26/13 at 8:38 pm to LSUmakemewanna
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GREENHEAD22
Nah not really, I actually posted the new PSA deal, for $999 w/aimpoint.
It was just a couple of posts about DPMS having a rep of "questionable" standards for lowers.
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LSUmakemewanna
I don't know what it is about them, but I want an Umbrella lower(not paying that price though), I also want a mega billet upper/lower (will be my 308 build) and I want a BCM as well. If I had the funds right now, I'd buy that FDE rifle BCM has on their site right now.
Posted on 7/26/13 at 8:41 pm to TigerTatorTots
Im on there site right now, they have a good deal going on flashlights and 22 minimag CCI, needless to say I am 100$ in the hole and still looking.
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