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re: Fine Wine in BR
Posted on 8/20/12 at 3:06 pm to bschlessel
Posted on 8/20/12 at 3:06 pm to bschlessel
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That's why most of the south is close minded and ignorant.
Ever been to most of California? Rural Michigan, New York or Pa.?
Posted on 8/20/12 at 3:11 pm to notiger1997
Notiger-
That's the beauty of wine. Just because a bottle is expensive doesn't mean its good. What's good is what YOU like no one else. Just because you like something dosent mean its good and just because you don't like something dosent mean its bad. Taste when it comes to wine is very personal. The cool thing is once you become educated on what YOU like in wine then you can make educated purchases at a value. The key is finding someone that can find those value wines and stock a wine store as well as educate the buyer.
That's the beauty of wine. Just because a bottle is expensive doesn't mean its good. What's good is what YOU like no one else. Just because you like something dosent mean its good and just because you don't like something dosent mean its bad. Taste when it comes to wine is very personal. The cool thing is once you become educated on what YOU like in wine then you can make educated purchases at a value. The key is finding someone that can find those value wines and stock a wine store as well as educate the buyer.
Posted on 8/20/12 at 3:14 pm to bschlessel
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The key is finding someone that can find those value wines and stock a wine store as well as educate the buyer.
True.
I live in walking distance from a pretty good wine store. I do ok with bottles that cost $10-$20, I just can't drink as much as I would like.
I say go for it with your BR attempt.
Posted on 8/20/12 at 3:15 pm to bschlessel
One of the best wine shops I've ever encountered (and worked at) was a tiny, focused one in rural Lexington, VA (population 6,000). You can sell good wine anywhere. Now difference is, they were the only game in town. In BR, you are going to compete with Martins, Whole Foods, Calandro's, Marcello's (the old Cuban Liquor). Places that are engrained as the spot to buy your booze from.
A strictly wine shop probably wont make it. You will need the margins on liquor to make rent at first. But it isnt inconceivable that what you want to do would work in BR. If you make it back down this way, check out Keife & Co. which just opened in downtown New Orleans. It is a model that is built to succeed.
A strictly wine shop probably wont make it. You will need the margins on liquor to make rent at first. But it isnt inconceivable that what you want to do would work in BR. If you make it back down this way, check out Keife & Co. which just opened in downtown New Orleans. It is a model that is built to succeed.
Posted on 8/20/12 at 3:16 pm to Tigertown in ATL
Ya I have see a lot of those places. Most of California is just farm land with a lot of people who are just as ignorant about the beauty of Louisiana's culture are people of Louisiana are about California. You shouldn't hate or talk bad about something because you don't understand it. Learn about something with an open mind before judging it. Then you have the right to pass judgement. Untill then you are just going to sound dumb.
Posted on 8/20/12 at 3:30 pm to bschlessel
On a related note I'd like to see Joseph Kent w/ some more reasonable and accessible offerings here in Louisiana
Posted on 8/20/12 at 3:31 pm to bschlessel
How old are you and at what winery have you been working?
Posted on 8/20/12 at 3:41 pm to bschlessel
I'm a certified sommelier working on my advanced and running a restaurant with a 300 bottle selection. Baton rouge is a new world oriented city. Luckily I experience a bit more than just that in here and am allowed the diversity I have. Outside of that though, I do some private seminars and tastings, a FOH finisher course at the LA culinary institute and some other things on the side. To solely think u can get by going one thing is hard in this market. A bigger city is what is needed.
Posted on 8/20/12 at 4:06 pm to coolpapaboze
I am 25. I have been at miner family winery for a little over a year and a half. I am also helping smaller places with harvest this year.
Posted on 8/20/12 at 5:46 pm to bschlessel
You should look up lilwineman, he is the sommelier at Mansurs.
eta Got in late, I see you found him.
eta Got in late, I see you found him.
This post was edited on 8/20/12 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 8/20/12 at 7:02 pm to bschlessel
I had a Miner Pinot Noir Gary's Vineyard and a Sangiovese this weekend and they are some fine wines. I've had several and Miner is on the January visit list.
I'm a big Dave Phinney fan and have a bunch of his Beau Vigne and I have about a dozen Mercury Heads. Great wines. I believe he is in France now. For those who don't know he created The Prisoner and Pappilion among others.
And for those who don't think Baton Rouge is a wine town it's because they themselves aren't wine people. This is a great wine town with good selections and good opportunities. These people have money and spend it on good wines. I buy probably eight to ten cases a year.
There is a reason Sparky and his mom brought Mollydooker tastings here which was sold out and Clark Swanson of Swanson, who makes great wines makes regular stops here. Because they move their wine here. Mollydooker didn't go to New Orleans.
I'm a big Dave Phinney fan and have a bunch of his Beau Vigne and I have about a dozen Mercury Heads. Great wines. I believe he is in France now. For those who don't know he created The Prisoner and Pappilion among others.
And for those who don't think Baton Rouge is a wine town it's because they themselves aren't wine people. This is a great wine town with good selections and good opportunities. These people have money and spend it on good wines. I buy probably eight to ten cases a year.
There is a reason Sparky and his mom brought Mollydooker tastings here which was sold out and Clark Swanson of Swanson, who makes great wines makes regular stops here. Because they move their wine here. Mollydooker didn't go to New Orleans.
Posted on 8/20/12 at 8:13 pm to bschlessel
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Do any of you that consistently post on this board have any interest/passion for wine?
:raises hand:
Posted on 8/20/12 at 8:19 pm to Martini
Ahhhh a fellow Mercury Head fan. Tough to find.
Cleaned out the metroplex of the 2009 a few months back.
Cleaned out the metroplex of the 2009 a few months back.
Posted on 8/20/12 at 8:33 pm to lilwineman
This post was edited on 8/20/12 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 8/21/12 at 5:51 am to Martini
Martini-
Send me an email and I will set you up with a tour at miner conducted by yours truly. My.email is bryan@minerwines.com. I love seeing people from the south at the winery it warms my heart and makes me feel at home. I can also set you up with some good spots you may not have heard of.
Send me an email and I will set you up with a tour at miner conducted by yours truly. My.email is bryan@minerwines.com. I love seeing people from the south at the winery it warms my heart and makes me feel at home. I can also set you up with some good spots you may not have heard of.
Posted on 8/21/12 at 6:01 am to bschlessel
Sir, you get some mighty fine remarks on Miner's Yelp page.
We hope to make it out your way this spring--will definitely pay you guys a visit.
We hope to make it out your way this spring--will definitely pay you guys a visit.
Posted on 8/21/12 at 6:02 am to bschlessel
Well you are up early. We like the January trip because less crowds, cooler and we meet a lot of owners and winemakers. And our small group buys a lot of wine. We aren't tire kickers.
Had a very nice Burgess the other night. We met Jim Burgess on our last visit and had some great Library Reserves.
I'll shoot you an email. Are you from BR?
We hit Hunicutt awhile back while they were building their caves and i have some of their wine. It was not great when I opened a year ago but had one last week and it's gotten much better. I'll let it sit.
Met old man Hendry at his winery and he gave me a recipe for each wine. Old guy in his coveralls cooking and drinking his arse off. His reds are nice. Didn't care for his whites. I think he makes too many but that's just my thought.
I was there for a quick few days last month but I had business in San Jose so it was not as productive from a wine standpoint. Quick dinner at Mustards. Wanted to hit Goose and Gander but just couldn't fit it in.
Had a very nice Burgess the other night. We met Jim Burgess on our last visit and had some great Library Reserves.
I'll shoot you an email. Are you from BR?
We hit Hunicutt awhile back while they were building their caves and i have some of their wine. It was not great when I opened a year ago but had one last week and it's gotten much better. I'll let it sit.
Met old man Hendry at his winery and he gave me a recipe for each wine. Old guy in his coveralls cooking and drinking his arse off. His reds are nice. Didn't care for his whites. I think he makes too many but that's just my thought.
I was there for a quick few days last month but I had business in San Jose so it was not as productive from a wine standpoint. Quick dinner at Mustards. Wanted to hit Goose and Gander but just couldn't fit it in.
Posted on 8/21/12 at 6:14 am to Martini
Panny-
Actually most of those recent reviews are about me personally! Haha that's what happens when you bring southern hospitality to napa!
Martini-
I am originally from huntsville, al. My folks went to middle school and high school in br as well as both are lsu grads. I moved down to br in '06 and stayed till fall '10. Worked all over br in bars and restaurants. I have probly taken care of you somewhere Haha. Not up too early just visiting the gf on the east coast for a few days. January is definitely the time to come. I'll get ya set up and maybe you could even swing by the house one night and we can grill out and pop some of my nice aged shite for "research."
Cheers!!!
Actually most of those recent reviews are about me personally! Haha that's what happens when you bring southern hospitality to napa!
Martini-
I am originally from huntsville, al. My folks went to middle school and high school in br as well as both are lsu grads. I moved down to br in '06 and stayed till fall '10. Worked all over br in bars and restaurants. I have probly taken care of you somewhere Haha. Not up too early just visiting the gf on the east coast for a few days. January is definitely the time to come. I'll get ya set up and maybe you could even swing by the house one night and we can grill out and pop some of my nice aged shite for "research."
Cheers!!!
Posted on 8/21/12 at 7:33 am to bschlessel
If you haven't already, seek out Jeff Ames at Rudius/Tor. He is a friend of mine in spite of the fact that like you, he is an Alabama boy. His is a great story of a guy who loved wine who pursued his dream and succeeded and can give you his perspective.
Posted on 8/21/12 at 8:42 am to coolpapaboze
bschlessel, don't listen to the negative people. We would welcome you to BRLA with open arms and I think your idea has merit. Maybe you should reach out to BRCC or LSU and do a non-credit adult ed class on wine. I would attend.
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