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re: 1969 tigers no bowl??

Posted on 7/23/12 at 11:45 pm to
Posted by DaSaltyTiger
Alexandria/Pineville, LA area
Member since Dec 2004
4689 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 11:45 pm to
There was no Independence Bowl in 1969.
Posted by DaSaltyTiger
Alexandria/Pineville, LA area
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 11:50 pm to
I might add that for many of us older folks, 1969 left a very bitter taste in our mouths against Notre Dame (pronounced by one of our radio casters as "Notre DAMN") to this day, not to mention the Chicken shite texans.
Posted by Blast and Laugh
Texas
Member since Feb 2005
1915 posts
Posted on 7/24/12 at 12:57 am to
My Dad played on that team. At the end of the year awards banquet, each player received a plaque with the results of all of their games and a huge gold screw affixed in the middle, that read, "We got Screwed in 1969".

Posted by Good Times
Hill top in Tn
Member since Nov 2007
23717 posts
Posted on 7/24/12 at 5:25 am to


Great D for the Tigers that year.
This post was edited on 7/24/12 at 1:25 pm
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
22649 posts
Posted on 7/24/12 at 5:30 am to
I believe the Seniors on the team got to vote on whether they wanted to go to a bowl or not. The Seniors voted not to go to a lesser bowl.
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28073 posts
Posted on 7/24/12 at 5:49 am to
Notre Dame
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4064 posts
Posted on 7/24/12 at 5:56 am to
quote:

he game was played in BR.

The 69 game was in Jackson. 68 game was in BR, and 70 was the Archie Who game in BR that we won 61-17 with Archie playing with a cast on his arm. Archie was a great, great college QB--better than both of his sons really.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
29683 posts
Posted on 7/24/12 at 6:56 am to
quote:

Think that was the team that got passed over for a New Years Day bowl in favor of effing Notre Dame.


And if you have no other reason to hate the Fighting Leprechauns, this is reason enough. They (and the media) f-ed us. One of the best Tiger teams I ever saw play.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26602 posts
Posted on 7/24/12 at 7:09 am to
Didn't Notre Dame have 2 or 3 losses that year?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
82713 posts
Posted on 7/24/12 at 7:16 am to
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It's all Notre Dame's fault.
It was ND's decision, but not their fault. Fault lies with those who chose ND over LSU.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12545 posts
Posted on 7/24/12 at 7:43 am to
Don't blame ND.
They got a gift.
Blame the Cotton Bowl that took a lower ranking team, with a worse record, over LSU.
They wanted the tv ratings.
LSU got screwed by the Cotton Bowl, which has been in a downward spiral since (jerry world is turning it around).
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
20796 posts
Posted on 7/24/12 at 7:53 am to
That 1969 team was fun to watch - they played some great football. Notre Dame waited until near the end of the season to announce it would go to a bowl game; the New Years games were already filled (unofficially - official invitations couldn't go out for another week or two). LSU was in the Cotton Bowl, but ND's late decision bumped them out. The Peach Bowl was desperate for a ranked team, and LSU was the defending champ, but decided to sit home. Almost everyone associated with LSU supported that decision.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
206942 posts
Posted on 7/24/12 at 8:01 am to
The Cotton Bowl went for Notre Dame instead of LSU that year and the team decieded to just say frick it and stayed home.
Posted by Billsburg
Virginia
Member since Sep 2011
15 posts
Posted on 7/24/12 at 8:08 am to
This was Charlie Mac's best team and there were many people who believe that the Cotton Bowl committee let Darrel Royal decide on who he wanted to play. He did not want to face LSU so he chose Notre Dame. I have great disdain for the Longhorns and Notre Dame ever since.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 7/24/12 at 8:13 am to
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Why did a top ten 1 loss tiger team not make a bowl game in 1969


We were expecting a bid to the Cotton Bowl to play #1 Texas, but at the last minute, Notre Dame decided to end a self-imposed bowl ban and announced that it would accept a bowl bid if offered. The Cotton Bowl dropped its plans to invite LSU and invited Notre Dame instead. Jilted by the Cotton Bowl, LSU players voted to turn down other minor bowl bids and not play in a bowl.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 7/24/12 at 8:29 am to
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There was a gentlemen's agreement that LSU would play Texas for the national championship in the Cotton Bowl


No, there was an agreement that we would play Texas in the Cotton Bowl, but we were not in position to win the national championship under any circumstances. The loss to Ole Miss sealed that for us.

quote:

Texas ran the wishbone in 69 and should have been defeated by Arkansas in the famous showdown that Nixon attended. Nobody could run on LSU , and they would have beaten Texas


Given how poorly Mac's defenses dealt with the wishbone when Alabama adopted it in 1971 or 1972, I think it is very questionable whether LSU would have beaten Texas that year.

quote:

LSU was the best team in the country that year.


Maybe. It should be noted that all the teams we stomped that year were bad. The only good teams we played were Auburn and Ole Miss (both finished 8-3), and we split those games, beating Auburn 21-20 on a blocked extra point, and losing to Ole Miss 26-23. Alabama was the only other team with a winning record we played that year (they finished 6-5), and we beat them 20-15. The other seven opponents all had losing records and combined to finish 18-52 on the season.

Results that year, and opponents' records:

Texas A&M (3-7), won 35-6
Rice (3-7), won 42-0
Baylor (0-10), won 63-8
Miami, Fla. (4-6), won 20-0
Kentucky (2-8), won 37-10
Auburn (8-3), won 21-20
Ole Miss (8-3), lost 26-23
Alabama (6-5), won 20-15
Mississippi State (3-7), won 61-6
Tulane (3-7), won 27-0
This post was edited on 7/24/12 at 8:40 am
Posted by bishop
Maiden, North Carolina
Member since Jun 2004
2390 posts
Posted on 7/24/12 at 8:32 am to
Blast and Laugh...that is true. My dad played as well and has that same trophy. It is really a great piece of LSU history.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 7/24/12 at 8:52 am to
Lots of myths about the 1969 team. First of all, the highest that team was ever ranked in that season was8th, which the '68 team accomplished as well. That's not to say they weren't outstanding, in fact Las Vegas had LSU only behind Ohio State and Texas as the best teams.

Remember the bowl culture was different,too. Big 10 and then Pac 8 were tied to the Rose. SWC champion was tied to the Cotton. Orange and Big 8 had an arrangement of sorts,but not binding.

Also the 1969 season had ranked teams that were a who's who of that decade, Southern Cal, Ohio State, Texas, Notre Dame, Penn State, Tennessee, Arkansas and LSU. In early November of 1969, the Sugar Bowl offered LSU a bid but LSU turned it down hoping to play Texas in the Cotton. Penn State had already turned down the Cotton so LSU and the Cotton indeed had talks.

Notre Dame had been seriously considering going to bowls for years. They decided to go to bowls again to help fund minority scholarships and women's sports. The Cotton then picked Notre Dame over LSU. LSU went back to the Sugar and the Sugar said "sorry" that they had chosen Ole Miss.LSU tried to persuade the Sugar into a rematch like in 1960.The Sugar declined wanting the Texas-Arkansas loser.

The Astro-Bluebonnet and Sun Bowls offered LSU and invitation, but LSU declined. One thing people need to understand, is with the loss to Ole Miss even if LSU had played and beaten Texas in the Cotton Bowl, LSU would not have won the AP National Title. Southern Cal or Penn State would have.
Posted by wesman21
Youngsville
Member since Jun 2009
3006 posts
Posted on 7/24/12 at 9:05 am to
Great summary. This entire thread needs to be put on Wikipedia for the 1969 season. If I knew how, I'd do it!
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67583 posts
Posted on 7/24/12 at 9:15 am to
two words, Notre Dame
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